Is this type I band real?

[painter777]

YEP,
Forgot about looking at the screw.....missed that.
Thanks Rog....Bubba-7. Too busy looking at the inner band and UR markings.

Thank You
Charlie

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[raycer911]

YEP,
Forgot about looking at the screw.....missed that.
Thanks Rog....Bubba-7. Too busy looking at the inner band and UR markings.

Thank You
Charlie

I spotted this fake right away, but asked this clpp guy if this was a genuine band, just to see what he'd say -- I was amazed that he replied it was on a gun his father brought back from the war!

So I wrote him back the following: "Hello --

There are at least three clear signs that this is NOT a genuine WW2 vintage USGI barrel band: (1)Rock-Ola did NOT put the MR or UR marking on the swivel; only the band itself was marked -- someone thought they were real clever with a hand stamp! (2) The end of the top tab on the band should NOT be a full-tangent semicircle; the genuine band had a partial-arc end on the upper tab. (3)The top of the swivel screw on your band has an improper shape -- difficult to describe in words, but instantly recognizable to any knowledgeable collector. The genuine screw has a pinched, double-concave contour just like the shorter screw on the Type 2 and Type 3 bands. Other more subtle indications include incorrect metal thickness and radius of the edges of the swivel, which are clear when compared with a known genuine item.
I suspect that the band (or the entire gun that it was removed from) was represented to your father as genuine when he acquired it, and he was not experienced enuf to recognize the differences."

The seller never responded to me, did not post my message on his listing as he could have, and allowed the auction to go to completion for $132.50!

After the auction ended, I registered a complaint with eBay for this guy selling fake stuff; also sent eBay all communication between clpp and me.

Hope they smack him!

Ray