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    I think ignorant statement like Arisakaicon's are dangers to shoot is an opportunity to educate. Here is an answer for that if you allow the posting.
    http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=108768
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    Quote Originally Posted by riceone View Post
    I have looked over the "read only" sites and find the information there very "canned." If you expect to see the Libary grow you will have to open it up for anyone to post and ask questions. I am a Japanese collector and like to promote Japanese collecting but you have the door closed. riceone.

    Quote Originally Posted by riceone View Post
    I think ignorant statement like Arisakaicon's are dangers to shoot is an opportunity to educate. Here is an answer for that if you allow the posting.
    http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=108768
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    Hi .....

    Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.....

    I'm not sure you entirely understand the concept of the MKLicon, but let me try to explain it for everyone's benefit.

    Most boards have a free-for-all process, where folks post a pic of their collector's piece and usually ask... "What do think of this?". This is usually followed by an endless stream of replies with comments ranging from some excellent expert analysis, to "it looks fake". In the end, the post wanders off the bottom of the page and a month later, you often see it cycle around again with comments from someone who missed some of the first round of disjointed or unfocused replies.

    The MKLicon is designed to bring some order to the chaos in the way it approaches the display and discussion surrounding general milsurp collectors interests. We first select high quality examples of pieces vetted by our Advisory Council, then group them together by country so folks don't have to wade though a linear environment just to find the Canadaicon material. Second, we generally use the same "canned" template for creating a standard "look and feel" to each post, which minimizes the time members need to spend searching through long multi-page threads for specific types of information.

    For example, if I've seen a Canadian Long Branch sniper rifle for sale at a local gun show, or on an auction site, then I can go to the Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) and select the 1945 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch Sniper Rifle (click here) entry. I now have instant access to the "canned" information you refer to, such as lineage, specifications and manufacturing data, plus in this example a direct link off-site to a detailed photo montage of 106 high resolution photographs. These ImageEvent based pics provide individual details of markings and essentially what to look for in a "all correct" original piece. It helps people then compare a piece they are thinking about buying against a known reference piece, so they can acquire it with some level of confidence that it's not been tinkered with. If it has, then it helps them perhaps establish a fair valuation, in order to negotiate a better price.

    The last thing a standard MKL entry has is the Collector's Comments and Feedback section at the bottom of each entry. This is where ANY member of milsurps.com is able to add their comments, or provide feedback about ANY entry that appears in the MKL. That's what it's designed for and they're even numbered in the sequence they're received. The reason that the MKL is READ ONLY is to provide a front end moderating and editing process, so the comments that are useless or irrelevant such as "it's a fake", or completely off topic where someone starts to discuss their dog pics, never end up distracting from the purpose of MKL entry.

    Having said all of that, if anyone wants to start a thread in this standard Read/Write linear based Milsurps General Discussion Forum, to stimulate discussion about any piece displayed in the MKL, then go for it. That's the ideal venue for this type of discussion and it creates a Petri dish environment, out of which some posts will make for excellent permanent Collector's Comments and Feedback for the piece under discussion. Of course, as with most general boards, there will also be a lot of stuff that doesn't merit making it that far, but the overall process will still bring the order to the chaos I mentioned earlier.

    In any event riceone, it sounds like you have a wonderful Japanese collection, combined with some terrific expertise in that genre, so I would venture to guess that our membership would love to see your collection in the Japanese section, combined with your "canned" Observations on what to look for. If you, or any other member, wanted to submit some of your treasured pieces to share UNCENSORED knowledge with other collectors, the process of "How do I get my article, collectible firearm or accessory published in the Library?" may be found (CLICK HERE).

    The format we've chosen to implement on MILSURPS.COM may not be everyone's cup of tea, so for that, we do apologize. As we grow, we will modify and adapt changes to try and meet as many needs as possible. Robert Kennedy once said, "10% of people will never agree with anything", so if we can get down to that ten percent level, I think it will probably mean we're doing a pretty reasonable job.

    Thanks again for the feedback.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by riceone View Post
    I think ignorant statement like Arisakaicon's are dangers to shoot is an opportunity to educate. Here is an answer for that if you allow the posting.
    http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=108768
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    Riceone,
    Are you the original poster in the Gunboards Arisaka experiment?
    If not, the original poster should be contacted and this experiment should be catalogued in the forum for reloaders.
    If we could get a hold of Andy from CGN as well, we could include his Carcano experiment.

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