Fireforming .303 cases fir a .410

[Edward Horton]

Villiers

Faster than a semi-auto pistol or a .410 Enfield , load 3 pieces of .30 caliber buckshot in Speer shot capsules and load your .38/.357 revolver with them.

Pull the trigger 6 times and your target has 18 holes in it.

Or just pull the trigger three times……………….

"Two in the chest and one in the head always makes your opponent very dead"
General Sun Tzu 500 BC

[browningautorifle]

Edward, I've got to give that one a try! I've got a bag of 25 pounds of buck to use. What was the reference for loads?

[Edward Horton]

Edward, I've got to give that one a try! I've got a bag of 25 pounds of buck to use. What was the reference for loads?

It has been a long time but they were in a shooting magazine for making “safe” home defense loads that would not endanger your next-door neighbors home or shoot through your drywall and aluminum siding and penetrate next door.

You could also use brass brazing rods cut to length and make your own Flachette Rounds.

The funny part was the article was very thorough, these rounds needed to penetrate a heavy Woolrich coat, a defrosted chicken but NOT shoot through your drywall and aluminum siding. The Flachette Rounds were not a problem but the Number 1 Buck (.30) needed to be kept at 800-850 fps to not penetrate your aluminum siding.

Use the Speer manual for the shot capsules charge to weight ratio.

I also used “three” .458 lead round balls in my 45-70 cases and they were called “Hoc Shop Loads" or Old West “Bartenders Loads”.

You also might be able to use .41 caliber gas checks top and bottom in the .303/.410 brass cases to seal and crimp your loads.

[villiers]

Hugo Uno "Produktstatus zur Zeit nicht lieferbar " means it´s unavailable. Like most other re-loading articles in the last few months. Where´s it all gone???

Browninautorifle ... I used Ballistic Products Inc. white nylon "cushioned carrier" and they work. Am hoping to be able to find them once fired.

Still have to find a good method of crimping the brass.

[villiers]

Ed, that makes my eyes water ..

[jmoore]

W/o flattened tails, the "fletchette" rods tend to turn sideways and spray in a very wide cone. Evil looking results on paper (and dead chickens), but never saw any definitive terminal ballistics study.

[browningautorifle]

I found that when using two round ball, the one next to the powder flew true and the one in front was a flyer at about two inches somewhere in a circle around the first. They both had passable penetration on four inch farm fence posts. I mostly used a Ruger #3. Makes you wonder what it was like to use the Thompsen 1921 with the riot load inside a stone prison like Sing Sing?

Villiers, I was thinking once it was all in place a touch in a standard crimp of .44 or .45 might give enough roll to the end to hold secure.

[Pattern14]

...Villiers, I was thinking once it was all in place a touch in a standard crimp of .44 or .45 might give enough roll to the end to hold secure.

I use an overshot cardboard wad cut from mat board with a sharpened punch made from a sawed off .303 round - held in place by a glob of white glue.

Regards,
George

[browningautorifle]

That sound like the idea the 1909 blanks used. That would give a definite crispness to the over card.

[villiers]

Thanx ... I´ll try the wad `n glue method. Never knew how much fun the .410 could be!