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12-21-2009 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by
Lance
Rifle No. 7 Mk I
Per the literature this rifle was created for the RAF in 1948 using conversions of No. 4 Mk I rifles. My example has no visible previous markings on the receiver and I have not seen an example that had part or any of its original receiver markings. I would guess that maybe spare receivers that were never assembled into No.4’s were used for the No. 7. Anyone out there have one with original markings??
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Mine is a Mk1 action, totally scrubbed, there are some 'possible' markings on the right hand side Butt socket which with a little imagination could be
a broad arrow
a small crown (part of a proof mark ?)
letters R C
I know No4s are normally marked on the left hand side of the butt socket or on the left hand side of the action so I cannot imagine what these marks are / were.
The only other markings are :
Left hand side of action "BNP" and No7 Mk1
Rear sight F (Fazakerly)
Left hand side rear of action (near the cocking piece) a 'star' and ???
Butt marked "N over 49 over /|\" (Broad arrow) (N49 = H Morris Glasgow)
Action and bolt marked with serial number
Butt trap door marked "M607"
Safety marked "M47C" (BSA)
Metal band on top of front handguard marked "M813"
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Interesting TR foresight Lance; you occasionally see "covered" No 4 foresights and also tunnel foresights set into foresights protectors, but that is the first "open" tunnel type that I have encountered.
Brindles Engineering did some prototypes where they simply covered the No 4 foresight but they were never produced as a commercial proposition.
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Unfortunately there are no markings on the tunnel forsight as it is a great piece of work. A little light causes the brass dot "glow" making it very enjoyable to plink in the back yard.... Damn ground hogs.....
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The only No8 I've seen for sale in the UK
was a BSA on a No5 action, PH tunnel foresight. Serial No DA143.
It made £720 at auction (8th September 2009)
How come when Fazakerly made 15,000 and BSA made only 2,000 all we ever see are the bSA ones ?
Last edited by Alan de Enfield; 12-22-2009 at 04:03 PM.
Reason: Quantities
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Originally Posted by
Alan de Enfield
How come when Fazakerly made 15,000 and BSA made only 2,000 all we ever see are the bSA ones ?
My guess:
New Zealand
sold off their rifles and they were all BSA's well the Faz. Examples were used within Briton and not sold to the public.
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Because BSA only made the No8 on cotract to the UK
Government, it marketed and sold the No8's to NZ
in contravention of the patent rights. Naughty, I know! That's why they had a special serial nukber batch. So said, to keep their books correct but the Ministry of Supply suggested that it was to cover their tracks with their underhand deal
From this, can we assume that the BSA private sales and NZ purchases were all BSA guns? I feel so. This was well known among Armourers and was first told to me by ASM 'Jock' Annandale when I was a young Armourer at the Base Ordnance Depot Workshop at Ngaruawahia in NZ where we had a load of No8's with odd-ball serial numbers but otherwise identical to our UK spec No8's.
There were a few reasons why BSA sold them off privately..........
We still have a load of No8's in the UK Military system but many now have re-numbers using the UE66Axxxx or the SA89Axxxx numbers
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NZDF sold off 285 No8s earlier this year, some were A prefix Fazakerley No8s.
From that auction i picked up 2 BSA No8s both with the same serial number DA156

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