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Carbine 30rd magazines legit?
Greetings everyone,
Hope I am not fumbling by posting this here; apologies if so. I posted a thread in the fakery forum (link below) and I'm just hoping that it is seen (maybe I should have posted it here to begin with).
I'm wondering about some 30rd magazines. The thread has plenty of pics and can be found here: Military Surplus Collectors Forums
Thanks,
Jeff
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02-03-2013 04:37 PM
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Before 30 round magazines became a thing of the past in NJ, those "M2" marked commercial magazines were in all the gun stores. They are not USGI issue, but they DO hold 30 rounds.
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Hey Jeff,
Are you wondering if they are USGI WWII?
Or if they work ok?
Charlie
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Thx Tom,
CH-P777
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Good link here..........
30 Rd Hardback and Splitback SEY Magazines
CH-P777
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Originally Posted by
painter777
Good link here..........
30 Rd Hardback and Splitback SEY Magazines
CH-P777
Thanks Charlie. That is one of the places I had been looking at; I was also looking at this document from CMP:
http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/pdfs/Carb...ember_2007.pdf
And this website:
M1 / M2 Carbine Magazine FAQ
Its funny, I couldn't get my mind to make sense of the information from all three sources as a whole while I was reading them online but as soon as I printed each one out and read them they were pretty clear regarding the M2 magazines. I thought that I should share what I learned with the person selling the mags so he would know what he has; here's the note (in part) that I sent along with the sources mentioned above:
Based upon three different sources, the M2 mags are not USGI; they are commercial mags made in the 1970’s by a guy named Tony Scherer. I have read that some of the mags were OK and some were very bad. For commercial mags, $50-60 is just too much for me.
Now I see he has the mags listed on Gunbroker as USGI...
At least I know what a Front Top Roll Crimp is now...
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I collect and research both originals and the old fakes.
Here is my collection. It is a large image, so you may have to click on it to see it:
There are a few individual characteristics that show real versus fakes. I do not let all the information out because the fakers will correct their errors.
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Very nice Bill!
Do all USGI 30 rd magazines have the front seam crimp? Also, I think I read that USGI mags were always blued, never parkerized...is that correct?
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Many were parked as part of rebuild or for storage.. etc.
All were Blued as originally issued.
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So parkerization doesn't necessarily equate to being a fake? Are they less collectible?
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Parked= not as valuable to collectors.
But cheaper to use for shooters.
CH-P777
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Originally Posted by
scubatke
Very nice Bill!
Do all USGI 30 rd magazines have the front seam crimp? Also, I think I read that USGI mags were always blued, never parkerized...is that correct?
Jeff,
The early 30 round magazines had a full seam the later a partial seam. If you go to the link Charlie added here in post #3. Then look at the pictures in post #1 by thorin6 you will see the differences.
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