1. It appears that you are you're enjoying our Military Surplus Collectors Forums, but haven't created an account yet. As an unregistered guest, your are unable to post and are limited to the amount of viewing time you will receive, so why not take a minute to Register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to our forums and knowledge libraries, plus the ability to post your own messages and communicate directly with other members. So, if you'd like to join our community, please CLICK HERE to Register !

    Already a member? Login at the top right corner of this page to stop seeing this message.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18
Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    mr.e moose's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Last On
    02-10-2024 @ 05:32 PM
    Location
    alberta canada
    Posts
    324
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    08:44 AM

    Periscopic Prism Scope

    Well today I had the good fortune of acquiring a PP co. scope at a auction. Glass is clear and the range drum and capstans move freely. My question is, is there a source for a reproduction mount? I have seen in the past that DRP has posted that he had a repro mount but where would one find one?
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. #2
    Advisory Panel Lee Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last On
    Today @ 10:57 AM
    Location
    out there
    Posts
    1,863
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    09:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.e moose View Post
    Well today I had the good fortune of acquiring a PP co. scope at a auction. Glass is clear and the range drum and capstans move freely. My question is, is there a source for a reproduction mount? I have seen in the past that DRP has posted that he had a repro mount but where would one find one?
    Dave, I'll trade you my ppco scope for yours...I don't think I can see thru mine...

  3. #3
    Contributing Member Promo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    1,889
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    05:44 PM
    It would be good to know which PPCo scope you have, to know which mount to suggest. As you might be aware they had a larger scope for the SMLE sniper, but also the smaller type for the P.14 sniper.

  4. #4
    Advisory Panel
    Roger Payne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 07:14 AM
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield, UK.
    Posts
    3,546
    Real Name
    Roger Payne
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    04:44 PM
    I am currently looking in to getting a few more PPCo mounts made, but we are still just at the discussion stage so far - nothing will happen for some months at best. However, when I had the last batch done a few friends had some as well, so I can always ask around if Mr emoose would like! PM me if you'd like me to pursue it.....

    Incidentally, as Promo says, there are two distinct types of sniper scope that were made by the PPCo during WW1 - I tend to refer to the earlier model as 'the PPCo' & the later one as 'the Model 1918' (its official designation), as this serves to lessen the potential for confusion. (In fact both designs were cribbed from the Germans - the earlier scope for the SMLE was an anglicised & slightly modified Fuess Helios 3 & the Model 1918 was derived from the Hensoldt 'light' telescopic sight).
    Last edited by Roger Payne; 12-12-2016 at 05:18 AM. Reason: typo

  5. The Following 5 Members Say Thank You to Roger Payne For This Useful Post:


  6. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    mr.e moose's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Last On
    02-10-2024 @ 05:32 PM
    Location
    alberta canada
    Posts
    324
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    08:44 AM
    Thread Starter
    This scope is definitely the early larger version with the stepped ocular for the SMLE and not the model of 1918. The range drum appears backwards from examples that I have seen.This is in as found condition and will need some TLC, I just wish that whoever had it didn't steel wool the patina off of it.



  7. #6
    Legacy Member Ridolpho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last On
    09-27-2022 @ 11:12 PM
    Location
    Province of Alberta, Canada
    Age
    67
    Posts
    1,019
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    09:44 AM
    Mr. Moose: Was that at a local Alberta auction that you found that?

    Ridolpho

  8. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    mr.e moose's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Last On
    02-10-2024 @ 05:32 PM
    Location
    alberta canada
    Posts
    324
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    08:44 AM
    Thread Starter
    Yes, I picked it up at the Bud Haynes/Ward's auction this past weekend here in Edmonton. I was afraid it was going to go for much more than what I paid but the internet bidders suddenly dropped out and I was the only one there that was interested.

  9. #8
    Legacy Member maxman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last On
    07-30-2022 @ 03:02 PM
    Posts
    5
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    11:44 AM
    While on the subject of PP scopes, I've had one for a number of years and have finally decided to have it mounted on a period-correct SMLE. The leather case was marked to rifle J2015 but then re-stamped to rifle P8498. The scope itself is in very good condition and complete with the end caps - it also came with a base which I assume is a reproduction but looks excellent.
    Does anyone know what size of screw would be correct to fasten the base to the receiver?

    Also, I have a 5-power Fidgelands scope that is faintly broad-arrow marked on the ocular end.
    I do have the Skennertonicon book, but would like to find out how these were mounted if anyone has any information?

  10. #9
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    5,058
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    08:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by maxman View Post
    Also, I have a 5-power Fidgelands scope that is faintly broad-arrow marked on the ocular end.
    I do have the Skennertonicon book, but would like to find out how these were mounted if anyone has any information?
    Is this the sort of scope you mean?
    Last edited by Surpmil; 11-25-2019 at 11:03 AM.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

    Edward Bernays, 1928

    Much changes, much remains the same.

  11. #10
    Advisory Panel
    Roger Payne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 07:14 AM
    Location
    Sutton Coldfield, UK.
    Posts
    3,546
    Real Name
    Roger Payne
    Local Date
    06-13-2025
    Local Time
    04:44 PM
    You need 5 x 5BA screws, a tap, & the core diameter drill.

    I also have a Fidjland scope but mine doesn't bear the upper mount. From drawings it would seem that the upper mount locates down over a rail on the rifle. There is a very poor quality photo in 'The Britishicon Sniper' of a scope that appears to bear its top mount, but the detail is almost impossible to make out.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. WW1 Periscopic Prism Ltd Scope Questions/New Member
    By hunter1982 in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-29-2015, 12:07 AM
  2. Periscopic Prism scope case
    By AlphaMic13 in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 04-03-2014, 07:22 PM
  3. WWI Periscopic Prism Co. sniper scope on GB website
    By jimmieZ in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-03-2013, 11:16 AM
  4. Periscopic Prism scope mount
    By drummerboy in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-09-2010, 07:03 PM
  5. Periscopic Prism Sight Repair
    By Terrylee in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 03-30-2009, 09:28 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts