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paroikoi Is this a real Winchester... 10-15-2009, 10:35 AM
paroikoi I'm guessing it is a fake,... 10-15-2009, 10:36 AM
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painter777 Josh, By chalking the... 10-16-2009, 04:50 PM
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painter777 Hi ScottR, I should have... 10-16-2009, 08:39 PM
imarangemaster EW marks 10-16-2009, 10:35 PM
BrianQ They are marked E.W. 10-17-2009, 09:04 AM
painter777 As far as saying sloppy, I... 10-16-2009, 11:14 PM
ScottR I think I have a pic of a EW... 10-17-2009, 02:45 AM
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Bill Hollinger There does not look to be any... 10-17-2009, 10:52 AM
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    Hi ScottR,
    I should have added that the safeties for Winchester were made by Sub-Contractors. Eaton Pond for the "EW" marked ones and Sargent Co. for the SW marked ones. Also should have added that "EW" marked safeties were also used in the rotary or flip type IV style late into Winchesters production, according to Riesch. I personally haven't seen a flip safety marked "EW".

    When I stated.....
    " Winchester IMHO had some lack luster milling styles.... some almost to the point of being sloppy. Not in fit, but the milling varied greatly"
    I had strayed from the markings of the safeties and was just throwing out a personal opinion about Winchesters milling work.
    I should have clarified that in my post.

    Thanks for the additional info.
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    EW marks

    Painter, is this what you are talking about with mill marks? I got this safety off of a mixmaster NPM I had about 10 years ago. When I traded off the NPM, I kept the safety.

    PS it is the only early part I own!



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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Also should have added that "EW" marked safeties were also used in the rotary or flip type IV style late into Winchesters production, according to Riesch. I personally haven't seen a flip safety marked "EW".
    They are marked E.W.

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    As far as saying sloppy, I meant the overall milling like on the receivers, trigger housings, slides... etc.
    Your EW is a real one. They were cut and lightly ground on the ends after the internal cuts were down. This is just a quick overview of the steps.

    Gotta get to work.
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    P.S. It's not really a early part...per say....sorry.

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    I think I have a pic of a EW flip safety, will have to look for it.

    Scott

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    Brian,
    I'd like to personally take this time to say Thank You on your 'Outstanding Articles' in the last couple CC Newsletters about the late 6 and 7 mil Winchesters.
    Now that I think about it, I recall your picture showing the EW marked rotary safety.
    Please pass along some Thanks to Newscotlander also.
    We sure miss his input here on this forum.
    Both of you deserve credit for the hard work put into these articles.
    You've shown again that the newsletter is priceless.

    Sincerely
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    There does not look to be any lateral wear at either end of the barrels of the safety. Like it is either new or refinished. Even when there is little to no wear on an original there are signed of the safety being pushed in and out of the trigger housing and wear in the detent grooves where the plunger rubbed back and forth as the safety was pushed in and out.

    Just by looking at the finish and the "EW" I would be very suspicious of it as being real.
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