Hypothetical New Garands

[DaveN]

yes the presence of heavy cosmoline seems to indicate rebuilds. But if they can be had for much reduced price and i'm not picky when it comes to surplus garands. as long as they are below surplus prices. If we find a gem or two then tat much the better.

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[Kirk]

I was a volunteer at the CMP about 5-6 years ago and was involved with uncrating and serializing some of the Garands returned from Greece. In some crates there were rifles still in the wrap just as they left the factory. I'd count those as "new, never issued".

[Charlie59]

The service grade specials I got have new(no wear marks anywhere)metal, with mws' of zero. CMP wood, which I replaced with mint usgi wood. That's new as far as I'm concerned.

[Bob Seijas]

One of my favorite stories (that I have told often) concerns a crate of 10 new IHCs. When IHC vacated the plant, they left one guy behind as caretaker until Whirlpool took occupancy. After about a week, a crate arrived -- 10 new rifles that had been sent to SA for parts interchange testing and just returned. The guy didn't know what to do with them, the contract was over, the machinery removed, all rifles and parts delivered. So he loaded the crate into the trunk of his car, waited until dark, and drove them down to the river and dumped them in the water. Ouch! Anybody got Scuba gear handy?
I interviewed him in about 1980 and he really regretted it, but said that Ordnance had scared everybody to death about theft of government property, so he never even considered keeping them at the time.

[Mark in Rochester]

M-1 Garand SA Unissued SN- 5834132 Auction



This is an SA garand that CMP believes to be new and still in original condition. The barrel is dated SA 3-55 and the muzzle gauges 1 with a throat erosion of 1+. The rifle is pristine. A data sheet is not prepared, but we will prepare one before shipping if requested by the auction winner. See Photos.

[Bob Seijas]

I think this is the first auction of the new guns found at the GCA convention last year. There were over 200 late SA and HRA rifles that looked like this, enough to make you weep.

[JohnF]

I think this is the first auction of the new guns found at the GCA convention last year. There were over 200 late SA and HRA rifles that looked like this, enough to make you weep.

Yep..........I didn't cry, but the elastic in my shorts melted. Haven't been stable since.

[Bodyman]

I think this is the first auction of the new guns found at the GCA convention last year. There were over 200 late SA and HRA rifles that looked like this, enough to make you weep.
Yep..........I didn't cry, but the elastic in my shorts melted. Haven't been stable since.

Yup. Not blaming Orest or the CMP for my lack of stability but this is definitely a potential trigger for a weakening of the knees ... (oh, look, a pun to boot).

I musta handled 20 of those to walk them up front - one in each hand - gorgeous, just gorgeous.

Hats off again to the CMP for that - what a great time we had.

[DaveN]

So if you were there my question is why would I get service grade SA's from CMP some with nice original cartouched stocks(service grade condition) and some with new CMP birch? what would the reason be? 1. they were ruined? 2. they had nice original WWII stocks? 3. There were some sent from Greece without stocks at all? 4. Anyone elses guess goes here.

[DaveN]

I received some CMP M1's in new condition but with CMP birch stocks. As mentioned in this thread, could these have been those that the stocks were to dry to be of use, though the parts and metal are great.