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gunner Drawing of a P08 barrel 09-23-2011, 01:47 PM
mdrim13 I am a member of another... 09-25-2011, 11:25 PM
villiers Hi Gunner the original... 09-26-2011, 03:57 AM
jmoore mdrim13, I went to the... 09-26-2011, 05:13 AM
mdrim13 Dont let one thread make your... 09-26-2011, 11:55 PM
gunner Good idea Patrick! If i get a... 09-26-2011, 02:03 PM
jmoore It's not on a thread. It's on... 09-27-2011, 12:46 AM
mdrim13 I never noticed that :dunno: ... 09-27-2011, 01:01 AM
Weaponengineer Hi! I´m new in this Forum! I... 01-10-2012, 11:00 PM
Patrick Chadwick Brilliant , Weaponengineer! A... 01-11-2012, 05:45 AM
Paul S. Those are nice drawings in... 01-15-2012, 12:13 AM
mdrim13 Patrick, That is the exact... 01-11-2012, 11:03 AM
Johnny Peppers On some K Date P.08's the... 01-11-2012, 11:31 AM
gunner Sorry that i´ve missed this... 01-11-2012, 02:57 PM
Patrick Chadwick Connoisseurs of thread sizes... 01-11-2012, 04:25 PM
villiers I´ve often wondered about the... 01-16-2012, 03:27 AM
bigduke6 I recently purchased some... 01-11-2012, 07:20 PM
mdrim13 Ya those guys can really ruin... 01-16-2012, 12:54 AM
bigduke6 For anyone looking for a... 01-16-2012, 09:08 PM
Weaponengineer Hello Again! The Masstafel... 01-17-2012, 01:43 AM
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    Those are nice drawings in the PDF.

    Engineering drawings are high art as far as I am concerned so I appreciate them for what they are - drawings.
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    Patrick,

    That is the exact same one I gave gunner when this thread was first started. Actually I gave him the entire document for every last part to the gun. I believe it was around 50 pages, but I could be mistaken. It makes me wonder if me and weaponengineer got it from the same place, another forum that specializes in building weapons. Kind of funny anyhow. PM me your email address if you want the set too and I'll send it to you.

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    On some K Date P.08's the front sight collar is longer than standard. The measurement from the front of the barrel to the sight is noticeably longer.

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    Sorry that i´ve missed this thread for some time! Thanks to all who have posted. I got a brilliant information from mdrim13! Thanks again.
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    Connoisseurs of thread sizes will note that the barrel thread is WHITWORTH form thread and 20 tpi, although the external diameter is 18mm. This appears to have been a general Mauser trait - the threads for both large and small ring Mauser rifle actions are also Whitworth threads,regardless of the diameter. So anyone strangling a new barrel cut with a UNF thread form (60 degree included angle) into a Mauser action is making a nonsense of the whole concept of thread fitting. The difference in the included angles will mean that the male and female threads will only contact at the bottom of the UNF thread. If the barrel is tightened up to the same torque as for properly mating threads, then there will be a huge shear force and considerable distortion of the mating faces along the thin line of contact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    Connoisseurs of thread sizes will note that the barrel thread is WHITWORTH form thread and 20 tpi, although the external diameter is 18mm. This appears to have been a general Mauser trait - the threads for both large and small ring Mauser rifle actions are also Whitworth threads,regardless of the diameter. So anyone strangling a new barrel cut with a UNF thread form (60 degree included angle) into a Mauser action is making a nonsense of the whole concept of thread fitting. The difference in the included angles will mean that the male and female threads will only contact at the bottom of the UNF thread. If the barrel is tightened up to the same torque as for properly mating threads, then there will be a huge shear force and considerable distortion of the mating faces along the thin line of contact.


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    I´ve often wondered about the DWM & Mauser threads. The only other screw threads on a P08 (Luger) are the two screws holding the grips in place and they´re not DIN either. Loewe (who owned DWM/Mauser) was the initial founder of the Germanicon DIN norm during WWI. But Mauser seems always to have stuck to his own thread sizes (`tis the same on my M71 carbine).

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    I recently purchased some blue prints from ebay for the Walther P38, drawings etc were good, possibly reproduced a few times but all the info was there.

    Not wanting to produce one in 9mm, but was looking at trying to produce a drawing of it in .22 with a 12" barrel and brace as to comply with our laws.

    The weapons guild, I frequent now and again, it does have a lot of info, but there some projects I see that make me cringe, and as for safety.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigduke6 View Post
    The weapons guild, I frequent now and again, it does have a lot of info, but there some projects I see that make me cringe, and as for safety.......
    Ya those guys can really ruin a perfecty good gun. I would never shoot some of the stuff i see peope build.

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    For anyone looking for a barrel for P08, Lothar Walther do a selection of in the white barrels (without chamber) with a 19mm thread length, size,s from standard to artillery.

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    Hello Again!
    The Masstafel is avaiable on several Sites on the Internet.
    The Mainparts are drawed with their measurements and the small Parts like screws and bolts are descriped in them! The larger version shows all parts!
    I collect Technical Drawings / Blueprints of all types of Weapons and Ammo!!!
    I search for Blueprints of German Rifle´s and Pistol´s like the mauser K98icon, K41, K43 and the P38. Other one´s are as well welcome!!
    Hope You enjoy the rest of this beautifull Pistol!!
    Greetings
    Stefan

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