A mint unfired 42 Maltby, Trying to value it

[CINDERS]

People are asking 2-3K for their special No.4 rifle but they stay on the site for ever its the old addage I am afraid what someone is willing to pay there is a T on used guns here asking 8.5K not sure if its sold but if it does then thats good because I paid way less than that for mine, not as miserly figures some have paid here but still cheaper than 8.5K.
Hope you get a sale......nice looking rifle.

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[Hambone]

I'll add my comments on it: Since it lacks an "England" or BNP, and was not updated with the replacement of the solid wartime production expedient cocking piece (these are about $20-30 on epay) and sight to a Mk.I, and given that the "FNR" stock stamping cannot be found anywhere in any British listing of such abbreviations in any of the books or site forums and references I have, then my guess is that it was surplussed in the 1960s (as many were with countries going to 7.62 NATO) from Pakistan, India, Greece, Indonesia, Austria, etc., etc. when these came in by the thousands in conex containers, pallet loads, etc. The "FNR" stamp is for one of these reserve units, governmental entities, finance, or police or security of some kind. There are many unissued condition "mint" No.4s that came in like, this, overwhelmingly Savage and LB. If it came in from England, it avoided postwar upgrades, BNP, and "ENGLAND" export stamps, which is unlikely to me. I have a Maltby that is close in condition, but with a grooved cocking piece that is likely original because my Maltby 42 is earlier. I won it at auction about 6 years ago for $350 IIRC. I think the Gunboards Enfield forum was spot on it valuing at exactly what I valued it at last year, $600-1000 in the US. You may get some bidding insanity on Gunbonker, but I believe at least some of the ridiculous prices you see there can be attributed to shill bidding, which distorts the actual market. The US Enfield market is not like the Enfield market in Australia or the UK where highly restrictive gun control and supply is more limited than the US or even Canada. I think the condition is very nice, exceptional, and a bonus. I think the "FNR" stamp is not a bonus and if it was mine it would be worth a little more not being on there. If someone wants a solid cocking piece they can replace that and I don't think one could tell if done properly. I welcome critique, correction, and such.

[Roger Payne]

Can you send a few of these profligates my way? All my punters have got short arms & deep pockets.....

[tiriaq]

It is unusual to see a rifle with the substitute parts still installed. These were pretty thoroughly culled out and replaced.
Not too many years ago I saw a batch in Ontario that had retained all the expedient features, some including the fabricated trigger guard. Don't know where they were sourced.

[Hambone]

That it still has those substitute parts is a reason why I believe it was surplussed in from a country not England.

[Brian Dick]

tiriaq, If it was the pile of No.4's CS Military Collectables had, I think they came from Italian Navy stores via the UK.

[tiriaq]

These were at Accuracy Plus in Peterborough. They could very well have been part of that batch.

[Ridolpho]

Rayg: I recall your old thread from 2013 about this rifle. In that one you showed a closeup of the upper bolt handle with what appears to be electro-pencilled crossed flags or similar. I was curious if you've found other examples of this on original Maltbys? It is a beautiful rifle but if I were a potential buyer I would want to see photos of the serial font on bolt and barrel and markings on the wood. I would guess that up here in Canada you'd be able to get $1000 (Can) fairly easily or more with patience. The market values here are not totally dissimilar to the US (I can suggest this having imported a couple). While thinking about it, it might also help in selling to take some natural light photos that bring out the hue of the original bluing. Regards.

Ridolpho

[Hambone]

I would guess that up here in Canada you'd be able to get $1000 (Can) fairly easily or more with patience. The market values here are not totally dissimilar to the US (I can suggest this having imported a couple). While thinking about it, it might also help in selling to take some natural light photos that bring out the hue of the original bluing. Regards.
Ridolpho

$1000 (Can) is US $750. Out of curiosity Ridolpho, do you know what the import / export cost would be from Canada to the US (if I wanted to buy an Enfield from Canada) or US to Canada (if I wanted to sell an Enfield into Canada)?

[Ridolpho]

$1000 (Can) is US $750. Out of curiosity Ridolpho, do you know what the import / export cost would be from Canada to the US (if I wanted to buy an Enfield from Canada) or US to Canada (if I wanted to sell an Enfield into Canada)?

Hambone: I used a company called "Borderview" but I can't recall if they work both ways. My recollection is that it was around $200 per rifle all in (a nice '16 Mk III, and a fair Ishapore Mk I**IP). Check their website as they have pretty good info. Regards.

Ridolpho