Plainfield Plant Robbed 1967

[browningautorifle]

love when armchair commandos write up an MTOE and never been in a hostile environment.

Or aren't even infantry.

Darn good observation device though.

Be able to count the hairs on that hand...

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[ssgross]

I love when armchair commandos write up an MTOE and never been in a hostile environment.

Yep. Those couch potatoes wit no clue how to calculate "Mega Tonnes of Oil Equivalent"

[TerryS]

I can see stolen guns, but ammo ? A manufacturer would not have a lot laying around.

[DaveHH]

I can see stolen guns, but ammo ? A manufacturer would not have a lot laying around.

The testing ammunition for WW2 factories was in the millions of rounds consumed. In '67 carbine ammunition was cheap, I can see having large quantities of tins and cases laying around.


TOE: I was drafted and spent only 22 months in the Army (72 day early out from VN)). During that time, I got a glimpse of how incredibly screwed up the whole thing was. When an IG inspection came to town, there was so much BS being done, with hand receipts to cover missing stuff and other stuff hidden, not many things were legit about any TOE. We actually had a stolen jeep in our battalion and just like in the movie "Mash" the order was to repaint that bumper NOW! Men who were in Korea swore that the natives could provide a stolen guided missile if the price was right. Now with computers, it is either hard to do or incredibly easy I don't know. When those Bozos walked off and left billions of dollars worth of TOE in Afghanistan, it must be very easy. Abandoning billions to assure that new stuff must be manufactured to replace it, wars that serve no purpose except to provide customers to arms producers, Generals micro-managing companies then becoming lobbyists. See a pattern here?

[fjruple]

I can see stolen guns, but ammo ? A manufacturer would not have a lot laying around.

Terry-- That is not unusual in this case, PMC was a small manufacturer and tested the weapons on site. The "stolen" guns and ammunition were part of a contract for the South Vietnamese Police. at the time the US military prohibited from supplying foreign police authorities with US military aid. The funny thing was that none of the "stolen" weapons have ever been recovered to date that I am aware of. My personal belief is the "weapons" were written off as a loss for insurance purposes but that is me just speculating.

[browningautorifle]

My personal belief is the "weapons" were written off as a loss for insurance purposes but that is me just speculating.

Insurance...I wonder if the size of the theft could have been padded for insurance money? As in stating there was a higher number of guns and more ammo than there actually was?

[fjruple]

Insurance...I wonder if the size of the theft could have been padded for insurance money? As in stating there was a higher number of guns and more ammo than there actually was?

Jim-- Just speculating!!! LOL

[browningautorifle]

Just speculating

Me too.

[eb in oregon]

Insurance...I wonder if the size of the theft could have been padded for insurance money? As in stating there was a higher number of guns and more ammo than there actually was?

I would imagine that it would take a heap of falsified paperwork that would need be created (production figures, serial numbers, parts, materials, and ammunition receipts) to accomplish that. And I'm thinking a company such as PMC had enough difficulties without biting off something with severe penalties.