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oldfoneguy M1886 Kropatschek Short Rifle 12-18-2024, 10:28 AM
browningautorifle Interesting little piece. ... 12-18-2024, 10:30 AM
oldfoneguy Yes Jim, in fact I did an... 12-18-2024, 10:39 AM
browningautorifle I was probably that same age... 12-18-2024, 11:12 AM
oldfoneguy Jim I didn't know that I had... 12-18-2024, 04:08 PM
Salt Flat Oldfoneguy, You did a great... 12-18-2024, 12:57 PM
oldfoneguy I don't have an actual 71/84... 12-18-2024, 03:52 PM
MAC702 I've had my M71/84 for... 12-18-2024, 06:40 PM
oldfoneguy I look forward to your write... 12-18-2024, 08:55 PM
Aragorn243 I have a Kropatschek and... 12-22-2024, 09:40 AM
Low & Slow Kind of interesting mix... 12-24-2024, 02:03 PM
oldfoneguy Indeed it was an interesting... 12-24-2024, 03:33 PM
Low & Slow It seems they tried to rig a... 12-24-2024, 09:59 PM
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    Kind of interesting mix between the two. The 71/84 used the 1878 Frenchicon Naval Kropatschek's mag tube, lifter and cut-off, while the Portuguese 1886 model used the 71/84's bolt, and had an up-graded mag cut-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low & Slow View Post
    Kind of interesting mix between the two. The 71/84 used the 1878 Frenchicon Naval Kropatschek's mag tube, lifter and cut-off, while the Portuguese 1886 model used the 71/84's bolt, and had an up-graded mag cut-off.
    Indeed it was an interesting period of development for this style firearm at that time. I think the difference between the 11mm to 8mm made the Kropatschek more viable for service well into the 20th century. Very few of 71/84 were still in European service by WWI whereas the Kropatschek was on the early war battlefield in Angola as the Vergueiro-Mauser hadn't fully replaced the Kropatschek in the colonies yet. Not that it should have been as it was going against stripper fed rifles.

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    It seems they tried to rig a sort of Kings loading gate on them at one point, but it never worked out.

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    C&Rsenal did an episode on the kropatschek rifles. I've had one for close to 50 years, even picked up a 1000 rd case of blanks with the idea of reloading them with bullets. I never got around to it as the brass on the blanks look odd. Not like the original ball ammo I have. I think they mat be reloads made into blanks. All the packs I have opened are of mixed head stamps.

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