Does anybody else like late model features?

[Maniac]

It's hard to deny the allure of an all-original, as-issued M1 Carbine or Garand, I happen to own 3 such carbines. Originals like this are very rare for obvious reasons but one thing we must keep in mind, ALL M1 carbines and most M1 Garands were made only during WWII and although I'm sure in some rare case, as-issued, early-featured examples of both MAY have been used in Korea it is unlikely they were. Therefore, it stands to reason that there's a much better chance that a Garand or Carbine could have seen action in North Africa, Italy, the Pacific theater, hit the beach on D-day and fought through Europe, then years later, after updates, used to defend the perimeter at Pusan, stormed ashore at Inchon or fought the good fight at Chosin Reservoir. An all-original, early featured one didn't likely have a chance to do that. JMHO

[phil441]

Maniac, big DITTO here.
My little carbine with all the updates has probably seen a whole lot more than I ever will. Or wish to.

Phil

[RBruce]

I like them all! I would like to know, though, if there is some regulation stating how many carbines a person is allowed to have?

[phil441]

Yes! The one enacted by the wife!

[ramit]

I like them both for different reasons.
I like the improved version , for just that reason, the changes made sense and were very practical and well done.

But there is bueatuy in the original config of the M1.
Very simple, clean and effective.

I have a mix master NPM for my shooter.

Seems it was rebuilt , but then not shot much.


And finally found an nice what seems to be as issued Inland mfg Jan 44, transition gun with low wood but all the other original features.



I have no worries shooting the mix master, since if I have to change anything , so long as I can get it, it wont hurt the value.

They are such great rifles to shoot.
While the adjustable sight is great, I find the flip sights are very function, and great due to their simplicity.

[3ky]

I like the upgrades!! The type 3 band holds the barrel tighter and makes my carbine more accurate. Late mag catch allows me to use 30 round mags. Fully adjustable rear sight.

I have 2 rebuilds. My 44 Inland was probably the 49 rebuild since it retained the push safety and early mag catch. It got a neet highwood stock. Trigger assembly is SG type 3. The band was made in 44 as a replacement band. Probably wasnt used in Korea. My Underwood was and was a late rebuild. Having a rebuild stamp on its Inland stock, type 4 Rock-Ola trigger assemply with flip safety and takes 30 round mags. Also has a neet SA 51 dated barrel. Thats my shooter. Wasnt shot much after its rebuild.

Onday I'll find one in WW2 config. I like the 2 I found and are fun to shoot.



Michael

[Tired Retired]

My Underwood was and was a late rebuild. Having a rebuild stamp on its Inland stock, type 4 Rock-Ola trigger assemply with flip safety and takes 30 round mags. Also has a neet SA 51 dated barrel. Thats my shooter. Wasnt shot much after its rebuild.

Michael,

Get you a couple of those Korean 30 rd mags that are floating around several online stores. They shoot very well and are definitely affordable. I haven't had a problem with them yet and make you appreciate that M-2 mag catch.

Ed

[3ky]

Hey Ed,

I got lucky a few weekends ago and found 4 mags at a fleamarket. All were full of Lake City 50's to 60s ammo. 3 were 30 rounders. One was a 15 rounder. 2 of the mags were marked M2 and were type 4. Book says commercial. Looking at the mags they are high quality. The other was a type 3 30 round marked M2 over KI. So I finally got a military Korea 30 rounder full of Korea area ammo! 15 round was type 1 marked U. I paid 50 bucks for all. Was happy they were full of ammo!! I think I got a good deal!

Today I took my Underwood with my type 3 mag full of Lake City ammo to the field. I shot half a mag at 50 yards at a jug. Carbine shot well with one failure to feed. Could be the new recoil spring I put in it. Just pushed the handle forward to help it feed and was good to go. I made the jug dance. Now to get some paper and see how it groups.

Field stripping for cleaning I found it had its correct bolt. Handle was Quality Hardware. I see the fun ya'll have Iding the gutts. LOL
Thank you everyone! These forums are very helpful to the newbys!!
Michael

[Tired Retired]

Michael,

You may want to take a look at this paper posted on the CMP about 30 rd mags. Based on what you said, what you have sounds after market. Those are hit and miss. You can shop around and get the new Korean mags for as cheap as $9.99 new. You will pay close to that or more for springs.

http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/Carbine_3...ember_2007.pdf

I'm not selling the new ones, but I ditched three aftermarket 30 rd mags (including a real SEY) after I tried the Koreans. they are reliable and I have yet to have one FTF with them.

As far as ID'ing parts, there is a "standard" form that the Carbine Club puts out to help you document what you have. You do not have to join the CC to get it or use it. They have a link on their site for it. I used it when I first started out (my, just a few months ago!) and it really helped me alot.

hope that helps.

[3ky]

Thanks for the info. I'll look to see if I can find one. Darn I thought my KI M2 mag was real USGI. LOL Oh well. I knew the M2s were commerical but they look high quality. I'll have to try them out and sell them off as I get some USGI mags. I see plenty of 15 round mags. Passed 2 up at trade day for 20 bucks. I may go back and grab them since some makers are hard to find. I'll fill out the form on the Carbine club. Thanks again!
Michael