1919a4 Information needed

[browningautorifle]

The plate inside on the right inside pic number 12 doesn't look right. Something added and riveted in. It shouldn't be there for a regular gun.

[tiriaq]

Yes. Apart from whatever else was done to the thing, there is a great thick plate added to the RHSP and corresponding parts are altered to suit.
Seems as if a decent 1919A4 parts kit goes for the better part of $1500 these days. Are there enough salvageable parts in the display piece to justify cutting it apart, and replacing what is required to make up a functional semi auto?

[fjruple]

Ok O got some pictures on here but I cant figure out how to get them in the post. They are in the photo gallery under my user name. I see now the bolt and barrel busing are junk as just as fjruple said they would be.

kenwest516--

Well, I looked at your pics that you posted and it does not look good. There is still hope to get you to a fully functional gun. On the plus side, your gun has a chrome plated trunnion block (post WWII) and the bottom plate is manufactured by Buffalo Arms and quite looked for by BA builders, BA stop making M1919A4 in 1943/1944 to concentrate on M2 .50 cal production. You are going to have to completely disassemble the Casing Assembly group (receiver) into its individual parts due to the poor riveting and welding. Great care is going to have to be exercise as not to further damage the bottom, top plate and trunnion block in its disassembly. Can you remove the barrel from the gun? The barrel obviously been demilled and will have to be replaced. You also need a complete semi-auto rightside plate (controlled item), and a complete set of semi-auto internal parts which include the lock frame group, barrel extension group, breech bolt group, breech lock cam and screw. I also note that you are missing the Izzy Front and rear cartridge stops and guides to fire the 7.62mm NATO cartridge.

This is just a start. It would have been a lot easier to build from a complete parts set then a display gun. On the plus side the M1919A4 parts are still available. Please send me a PM with your email address it would be easier to communicate and help you.

--fjruple

[Vincent]

Yes. Apart from whatever else was done to the thing, there is a great thick plate added to the RHSP and corresponding parts are altered to suit.
Seems as if a decent 1919A4 parts kit goes for the better part of $1500 these days. Are there enough salvageable parts in the display piece to justify cutting it apart, and replacing what is required to make up a functional semi auto?

The IMA display 1919’s were selling for $1,500 a year or two ago. They are hard to find now.

I would sell the display or trade it for a parts kit. It would be a lot less work and cost less.

Nice semi-autos are selling for around $5,000.

[tiriaq]

Might make sense to sell the unit as is, and put the money toward a parts kit, KMP 70% RHSP, sear, trigger, trigger spring, and the required machining on the internals. This way, all the parts are going to be usable, and it won't be necessary to chase down odds and ends. If the machining on the bolt, barrel extension, and lock frame is done by someone who knows what he is doing, assembling the gun is pretty straightforward, and there is a strong probability that the gun is going to run from the get go.
A batch of TNW M37s w/mount, links, etc. just sold out in Canada @$8000 retail. Heard there were about 20 guns. To meet current rules for importation, these had to have new made sideplates, top and bottom plates, and trunnion.

[kenwest516]

fjruple I sent you a pm with my e-mail address. The thick part that your seeing is the right side plate.That is how thick they made it then cut the internals to match so the bolt could be cycled. The barrel can not be removed with the thick side plate in place it hits the edge.
I want to thank everyone here you have been extremely helpful so far .Since a lot has been pointed out to me and I've been all over the internet in the last few days and learned quite a bit about the 1919. I'm considering buying a parts kit. I'm in the display very well so I wont be out much. It seems what I know about it so far the work involved will be more with the display. If I buy the kit it will cost a little more but will be less work.

[fjruple]

[QUOTE=kenwest516;366475]fjruple I sent you a pm with my e-mail address. The thick part that your seeing is the right side plate.That is how thick they made it then cut the internals to match so the bolt could be cycled. The barrel can not be removed with the thick side plate in place it hits the edge.
I want to thank everyone here you have been extremely helpful so far .Since a lot has been pointed out to me and I've been all over the internet in the last few days and learned quite a bit about the 1919. I'm considering buying a parts kit. I'm in the display very well so I wont be out much. It seems what I know about it so far the work involved will be more with the display. If I buy the kit it will cost a little more but will be less work.[/QUOTE

kenwest 516--

CAn you remove the booster from the end of barrel jacket?

fjruple

[browningautorifle]

remove the booster from the end

The barrel bearing and plug simply unscrews with a tool that was issued or a flat steel bar across the screw slot in the front...

[Peter Laidler]

It might have a locking ring between the end cap and the barrel sleeve that is staked into the cap and sleeve. If it's covered in paint you can't see them.

[browningautorifle]

A good strap wrench might help, but you almost need the right tool...and a second set of hands.