M2 Carbine Information needed

[Greystone45]

I'm trying to find some information on the M2 carbine, did one company make these or convert these? How do you know if you're getting a real one? Are these faked like many of the M1 carbine reproduction parts?

I think it would be nice to own one. Thanks

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[imarangemaster]

If I recall, Winchester and Inland both made M2s, with M2 markings at the end of the war. Many others were converted after the war and left with M1 markings. You can buy a NFA registered M2 or a registered M2 parts kit, and pay the $200 tax stamp. You can also get all of the M2 specific parts separately, but to have them all is a felony. M2 parts are: trigger housing, sear, disconnector block, lever, switch, spring, slide, hammer. M2 hammers, trigger housing, sear, and slides can be used in M1s as long as no other parts are there.

I have fired M2s, and I like them better than MP5s and UZIs, etc.

[usgicollector]

Inland and Winchester made them originally.
There was a kit to convert them also.

[Greystone45]

I found this one for sale. Is this a conversion?

http://www.autoweapons.com/photos10/...05carbine.html

WWII USGI UNDERWOOD M2 .30 CARBINE BY ROCK ISLAND ARMORY.... THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A WWII VINTAGE M2 REGISTERED RECEIVER CARBINE IN EXC CONDITION.... THE FIREARM HAS A NICE METAL FINISH, CLEAN/BRIGHT BORE, EXC CONDITION MECHANICALS AND A GREAT LOOKING M2 "POT BELLY" STOCK.... THIS IS AN M2 OVER-STAMPED USGI WII FIREARM WHICH IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL IT WAS AN "OVERSTAMP"..... THE M2. .30 CARBINES ARE NICE SMOOTH SHOOTING GUNS AND WITH THE LIGHT .30 CARBINE ROUND HAVE LITTLE RECOIL IN FULL AUTO.... IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR AN M2 GI CARBINE THEN THIS GUN SHOULD FIT THE BILL.... ANOTHER MACHINE GUN PURCHASED FROM A LOCAL COLLECTOR FRIEND WHO USED THE SALE TO PURCHASE A 2ND HOME.... COMPLETE WITH 15 AND 30 ROUND MAGAZINES

[LeagleEagle]

I found this one for sale. Is this a conversion?

http://www.autoweapons.com/photos10/...05carbine.html

WWII USGI UNDERWOOD M2 .30 CARBINE BY ROCK ISLAND ARMORY.... THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A WWII VINTAGE M2 REGISTERED RECEIVER CARBINE IN EXC CONDITION.... THE FIREARM HAS A NICE METAL FINISH, CLEAN/BRIGHT BORE, EXC CONDITION MECHANICALS AND A GREAT LOOKING M2 "POT BELLY" STOCK.... THIS IS AN M2 OVER-STAMPED USGI WII FIREARM WHICH IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL IT WAS AN "OVERSTAMP"..... THE M2. .30 CARBINES ARE NICE SMOOTH SHOOTING GUNS AND WITH THE LIGHT .30 CARBINE ROUND HAVE LITTLE RECOIL IN FULL AUTO.... IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR AN M2 GI CARBINE THEN THIS GUN SHOULD FIT THE BILL.... ANOTHER MACHINE GUN PURCHASED FROM A LOCAL COLLECTOR FRIEND WHO USED THE SALE TO PURCHASE A 2ND HOME.... COMPLETE WITH 15 AND 30 ROUND MAGAZINES

Yes, an M1 converted to M2 configuration

[LeagleEagle]

The forbidden 7 parts to have together are actually hammer, disconnector, disconnector plunger, disconnector spring, disconnector lever, selector lever, selector spring.

[Bruce McAskill]

Underwood never made an M2. That appears to be one of the many that were converted to M2 by the military about the Korean war time frame. Many were over stamped with a 2 over the 1 and some were not stamped at all.

[G26ster]

I've often wondered. If you purchase a "registered" 7 part kit, and pay the $200 tax, can you legally assemble the weapon yourself? Or, would a Class III shop be required to do it? Also, as an intensive background check is required, I assume you could not take possession of the kit before that was done and the tax paid. Can someone outline the steps, in order, to legally convert an M1,or acquire an M2? TIA.

[LeagleEagle]

I've often wondered. If you purchase a "registered" 7 part kit, and pay the $200 tax, can you legally assemble the weapon yourself? Or, would a Class III shop be required to do it? Also, as an intensive background check is required, I assume you could not take possession of the kit before that was done and the tax paid. Can someone outline the steps, in order, to legally convert an M1,or acquire an M2? TIA.

Ok, here's what you do in a nutshell. First you need to find either an M2 or a conversion kit that was legally registered prior to May 20, 1986. Because of some outrageous shenanigans at the very last, the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act outlawed the possession of machine guns made after that date by other than government (state or federal, LEO organizations) or military. The present owner will have you fill out an ATF form 4, (Application to transfer). You must have it signed by a Chief law enforcement officer in the jurisdiction where you live (Chief of Police, Sheriff, District Attorney, Judge of a court with felony jurisdiction) certifying that he has no information that you would use it unlawfully. You then get a set of your fingerprints taken, a check for $200 to the Department of the Treasury and the seller will send all of those to the NFA branch of BATF. It can take 90-180 days for approval. If approved the form will be returned to the seller with a tax stamp affixed. You can then take possession of your firearm. If the kit is the registered weapon you can install it in any M1 carbine. You can get around the requirement for a law enforcement signature and fingerprints by forming a corporation or a trust and having the gun transferred to either of those two entities. You as trustee or an officer in the corporation can possess it. The prices on registered M2s (most of them conversions) and kits I've seen are between $5000 and $7000.

[G26ster]

Thanks LeagleEagle. I think for that price I'd buy a few more M1s and M1A1s.