any insight on powder shortage?

[Matt Anthony]

My only issue here has been with Matt's original post of buying 30,000 primers he didn't need. He, and others, contributed to a panic buying (or to use Matt's word-speculation) that forced up prices and ended availablity. He can do that if he wants and I don't have to pay increased prices. But I don't have to be happy for him or accept his "Well I got mine and #$% the rest of you." That's all- I thought it was "odd" that he would boast about that to the very people hurt by the hoarding.

I don't remember saying "I got mine and the #$% the rest of you!" The statement you made is a bald faced made up sentence, commonly referred to as a false statement and lie! Is your nose a---growing!!!! Here is my original post, copied from page one!


It's simply supply and demand. I took to task and bought continually for over 2 years. One never has enough in this climate of political ups and downs.
As soon as Widener's had Wolf Primers last week, I bought another 30,000. I didn't need them, but it's better to have too many than not at all.
Powder Valley was out of H4350, so I read about Accurate 4350 and found that as a suitable substitute, so I bought 4 8 lb. jugs. Powder Valley has enough Accurate, so I might buy more next month.
It's not hoarding, it's survival!
Anyone can do it, just spend the money!

Stop making false statements, now,no one will ever believe you again!

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[hockeybuff]

Matt:
I'm sorry if you thought I was quoting you. I wasn't using the quotation marks to quote you- I read your original post- but instead to quote the slang saying. I was using the saying to illustrate my reaction to your original post and how you appeared to come across to me. That's not lieing or making a false statement.

[Matt Anthony]

Matt:
I'm sorry if you thought I was quoting you. I wasn't using the quotation marks to quote you- I read your original post- but instead to quote the slang saying. I was using the saying to illustrate my reaction to your original post and how you appeared to come across to me. That's not lieing or making a false statement.

You can't weasel out of this by now twisting your intented message. You referred exactly to my original post using that as your basis for your objections. You indicated I was boasting, that is not true, how did you come up with that? Where in my original post was I boasting?
Now, just because you didn't buy primers and powder when they were plentiful, there is no call to condemn the people that did! We call people who do what you have displayed, cry babies.
And I did not cause primers to go up in price because I bought an extra 30,000 primers. That statement is absolutely rediculous and childlike. Just to let you and the other cry babies know, when primers are available, around the 29th of August, I plan on buying even more, and this time I'll spend $2,000.00 just to show you and others I do this "because I can!" And you can do it too!
One more point, the word lieing is spelled this way, lying, and you did make false statements, that's a fact Jack!
Hope you have a wonderful day,
Matt

[seabee73]

Yo guys, this is getting tiresome. It's run its course.
Let's get back to exchanging loading info.
If you have some extra time, why not email your congressmen, senators, and let them know how you feel about our constitution, economy, and sovereignty being compromised and reformatted on the hurried whims of our new administration?
Not trying to be provocative; just a suggestion.
Karl

[Matt Anthony]

Yo guys, this is getting tiresome. It's run its course.
Let's get back to exchanging loading info.
If you have some extra time, why not email your congressmen, senators, and let them know how you feel about our constitution, economy, and sovereignty being compromised and reformatted on the hurried whims of our new administration?
Not trying to be provocative; just a suggestion.
Karl

Karl:
This thread was important to stop the whining! Attacking others for buying primers and powders is ignorant and those that didn't heed to the warnings, well, they don't have any primers now. Who's fault is that????
If there is a problem with the thread, the administration will pop up and correct the problem if it goes too far. And if you are tired of the thread, I would suggest you refrain from reading the thread.
Take your own advise, you get involved with your congressmen and senators, I already do that! Also, President Obama has used the word "Yo" quite often in his speaches when talking to ethnic crowds, I find that word offensive! It's not in Websters and is considered slang, it's not a word at all in the English vocabulary. In Spanish it means "I".
Have a great weekend,
Matt

[hockeybuff]

Matt:
Since you and I seem unwilling to let this go, I'll try and explain this to you yet again. This isn't about you buying what you want or feel you need- you can and are free to buy what you want at whatever price you want. This isn't about me not having any primers or whatever and so feel cheated. I bought the amount of primers etc I felt I needed well before this, during cheap and plentiful times, but, unlike you, I'm not boasting about it or causing problems for others who do need them now during a shortage caused by you and others hoarding them. The relatively few primers/powder I do need, I will wait until the panic is over and get them then- I can wait. In other words, I'm not @#$% anyone over buying 30,000 primers just to have them and then boasting about it to the very people being hurt by your actions.
I'm curious- since I continue to whine, Are you going to buy even more primers on August 29th?

Jack

[Matt Anthony]

To answer your question, I am not ever planning on buying anymore primers or powder. I would hope that stops the thread and satisfies your curiosity!
Also, I found a person who had purchased 30BR Remington brass back when those cases were manufactured. They have been discontinued for years. He didn't need them, but thought that a 308 case with a small primer was unusual. He thought that he would use it with his 308 bench gun. Well, he never used them but now needed primers. For 1000 each, large and small rifle magnum Wolf primers, I picked up 100 new 30BR cases for my CHeetah. These cases normally sell for $1.00 to $1.50 each, so I came out with a good deal. My cost was $30.50 per 1000 with haz and shipping. You can do the same, go online and check out the sites and when a company has product, buy some, it's really not very difficult.
Matt

[TDH]

For months I could find no bricks of Federal .22 LR. The few bricks of .22 of any name you could find was in the $30 range. For .22 LR ? Give me a break! When it became available I bought 6 bricks at $14 I quess I'm a horder. I never ran completely out of either primers or powder but it was close a few times. I even managed to hit the store one day when 2 8 lb jugs of IMR 4895 came in. I wish I had bought both. The one I got lasted about 3 months. I did think that $35 for a K .30 gas checks was a bit excessive. I did see primers at $50 a K but I passed on them at that price. Two weeks later I got a thousand from a local gunshop. I Wanted 2000 but he would only sell me 1. He had others on a list. But things here are starting to loosen up again.

[jimb16]

The only thing I'm having problems locating are Remington 209 primers. I've been able to find all of the primers, powder, bullets, and shotgun wads that I want or need, except those Rem primers.

[Curt]

CCI primers are flowing again in my area the shops are all getting there orders in again.
I bought my primers and powders 4 year back. Probally a lifetimes worth. At that time everything was cheap and I would pick up a jug of powder and case of primers when I would see them locally. no haz-mat. At that time I just figured they got a little more expensive each year and a little harder to find. I never thought of it as hoarding just being prepared and frugal.