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    And here's one for sale... at $2500.
    British P-1907 First Model Hooked Quillon Bayonet Earliest Scabbard ima-usa.com
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    They havent reached the dizzy height of that price yet in the UKicon, speaking to a dealer at the International he said an excellent condition unit marked hookie would now fetch around £1000.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigduke6 View Post
    around £1000.....
    I believe you...
    Regards, Jim

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    At this sort of money it is understandable why hooked 1907s get faked and mysteriously give birth to new hooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    At this sort of money it is understandable why hooked 1907s get faked and mysteriously give birth to new hooks.
    Basic tell tale signs are the date or the date has been linished and everything else on the ricasso is there, grips and screws look too new or have been disturbed, the hook and pommel look too new or too blue, if its just part welded that area will be or most likely stand out from the rest.

    If anyone has handled a lot of 1907 bayonets then I dont think its too much of a worry, I've seen German K98icon "sniper rifles" at auction and if the builder had done his homework, I guess he would be a richer man.....

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    Another thing to look out for is the presence or absence of the transverse oiling hole in the pommel - they didn't introduce that till post hookie days, so if your hooked quillon bayonet has one, it's a fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    Another thing to look out for is the presence or absence of the transverse oiling hole in the pommel - they didn't introduce that till post hookie days, so if you're hooked quillon bayonet has one, it's a fake.
    Technically yes. But it is very plausible for the hole to be present on a 07 with the hook.

    Interesting thread this, all comes back to having handled enough original items to know when there is something not quiet right.

    Basically with a few minutes in the hand its pretty difficult to be passed off a reproduction hookie if you have handled or seen a couple of kosher ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1967 View Post
    difficult to be passed off a reproduction hookie if you have handled or seen a couple of kosher ones.
    I think that's where these guys prey, the uneducated that are desperate to join the ranks of collectors that have the scarce and impossible to get. I can't imagine paying that much only to find you'd been done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I can't imagine paying that much only to find you'd been done.
    You would certainly be hunting down the culprit Jim LOL

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    I'd think a fake would be done with an early bayonet that may have been converted in the first place...generally...then the dates match.
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