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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    FYI: A 1/12 pitch is the correct slope for a wheelchair ramp.
    But be sure to put on the brake before taking the shot.

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    I'd say that's just right!
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    Some new information to muddy things up even more if that is possible.

    His former high school has come forward to set the record straight. They have no records of this kid being bullied. He was smart, got good grades and was popular with his teachers (teacher's pet it sounds like).

    They have no record of him trying out for the rifle team nor does the coach remember him, but they did acknowledge that he could have come to a class, fired a shot and then left and there would be no record of this. (I have open gyms prior to the start of season and tryouts. Usually at least two. Kids can come without physicals and shoot as this is not rifle practice, nor a tryout, it's like a gym class. It gives kids the opportunity to see if they might like it before actually signing up for it. I keep a list of attendees but usually discard it after the season starts. I also have trouble remembering kids who never made varsity if they were there for only one year).
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    He was NOT the student who made threats against the school, that was someone else. And he has no record of any disciplinary incidents on either side, so no bullying.

    So where is the media coming up with all this? Word of mouth of classmates? Some of it yes.

    I has also been released that they had the shooter in their rifle sights for over two minutes prior to the shooting. They were told that there was going to be a sniper on that roof. This smells to high heaven. There was a sniper alight, one wanting to kill the President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    And he has no record of any disciplinary incidents on either side, so no bullying.
    This does not mean he wasn't bullied. It just means there's no paper trail of it. Not all bullying gets documented. Depending on the severity of what qualifies as "bullying" these days, it's very possible that most of it is undocumented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    This does not mean he wasn't bullied. It just means there's no paper trail of it. Not all bullying gets documented. Depending on the severity of what qualifies as "bullying" these days, it's very possible that most of it is undocumented.
    I believe I read somewhere where they were interviewing a few of his classmates and they said that he did get bullied a little bit but nothing over the top at all. Who knows if that was just made up by the media or true I don't know
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    Well it looks to me there were no legitimate safety concerns with the roof being there are four grown men standing in one 4-ft area proving structural integrity, also proving the pitch of the roof was hardly anything to worry about. The structure is not dilapidated in any way. If those grown men can stand there and process the crime scene, then a sniper team could have stood there with rifles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    then a sniper team could have stood there with rifles.
    The sniper teams were not on that roof they were on 2 different roofs.

    People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    The sniper teams were not on that roof they were on 2 different roofs.

    People can and sometimes do fall through roofs if inadequate safety precautions are not taken.
    What thread have you been reading? When did I say snipers were on that roof? Everybody has known the whole time the counter snipers were on two different roofs haha!The whole argument is the director never put snipers on that roof. And you defended basically the secret service directors assessment that it was dangerous by saying there could be underlying causes of safety measure issues that we don't know of or in the public domain. All those people on that small patch of roof near the shooter proves that there was no underlying safety precautions that you seem to think existed. You are the only one that thinks that by the way.the counter snipers were on two different roofs , Yes they sure were, the secret service counter snipers right behind Trump stage left and stage right on two different barn roofs. keep grasping at straws my man haha. Sometimes it can be wonderfully funny when some people can't stand to be even a little bit wrong haha. They start bickering like a lawyer , grasping at any straw that can keep their argument afloat haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    What thread have you been reading? When did I say snipers were on that roof? Everybody has known the whole time the counter snipers were on two different roofs haha!The whole argument is the director never put snipers on that roof. And you defended basically the secret service directors assessment that it was dangerous by saying there could be underlying causes of safety measure issues that we don't know of or in the public domain. All those people on that small patch of roof near the shooter proves that there was no underlying safety precautions that you seem to think existed. You are the only one that thinks that by the way.the counter snipers were on two different roofs , Yes they sure were, the secret service counter snipers right behind Trump stage left and stage right on two different barn roofs. keep grasping at straws my man haha. Sometimes it can be wonderfully funny when some people can't stand to be even a little bit wrong haha. They start bickering like a lawyer , grasping at any straw that can keep their argument afloat haha
    I know clearly what I am thinking and posting, yet you contradict almost every single word that I post on this thread. My thoughts are equally as valid as your's. It is you that is doing the bickering by constantly contradicting almost everything that I post on this thread.

    I did not bring up the issue of "roof safety" initially but I did attempt to try and explain why it might have been a consideration for someone trying to make decisions, in the heat of the moment on the day. I do have some experience of working on flat roofs and I don't use safety harnesses because I don't have to but I still take certain safety precautions applicable to the roof that I am on.

    You are looking at everything with the benefit of hindsight which, unfortunately, the people on the day, making the decisions, did not have.

    How you seem to think that you know exactly what happened on the day and anyone else with alternative ideas as to why things may have happened as they did is wrong, I don't know. The reality is that very little is known for sure and that is why an investigation is being carried out.

    As for "trolling" you are talking nonsense.
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