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Lithgow No1 Mk 111 info needed
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09-06-2010 11:02 AM
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Here's a start - check this link out as it has a lot of those markings identified
http://home.earthlink.net/~smithkaia8/
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Thanks... COuldnt find the Crown and the L over P in the flags...
Stocks Stamped HV...High Velocity
CMP Military Police?
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CMP is probably CMF (Citizens Military Force) take a closer look
Crown over L and P is the Lithgow proof mark
3MD is Southern Command (Australia)
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Some nice markings. CMF - Citizens Military Forces (militia), at the time we had the CMF and the AIF. 3MD issued to Third Military District, being Victoria. I'd pay 1/2 again if you wanted to sell it!
* Above post had said 'Commonwealth Military Force' prior to edit by Amatikulu after I posted. This made my post look like repitition, kind of annoying. It isn't a ****ing contest. I prefer to thank people for providing more accurate information, putting me straight or correcting my errors.
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nice rifle and good price, way to start enfielding!
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Sorry to put the dampers on it a bit but I'd be a bit wary of the yellow paint that's been scraped off but still visible under the scores in the butt. Just have the rifle checked over by someone who knows what he's doing because yellow paint on an Australian SMLE butt (usually.....) indicates a well used former Cadet Force DP rifle
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Thanks for the comments and all the valuable information all...
Unfortunately the gunsmiths around where I live are not well versed in these type of arms I suspect. They deal mostly with the sporting type rifles/shotguns, not that it does not mean that they could not make a valid assessment of the condition of the firearm.
To my UNTRAINED eye, albeit I have been around firearms my whole life, that and $ 2.50 will get you on a NYC subway.....I can find no defects with the rifle. From every piece of information I have found and looked into the rifle checks out.
I can find no cracks ANYWHERE in the stock. The received appears sound....I have gone over every millimeter of it with a magnifying glass looks for cracks and defects (this does not take the place of adequate test equipment though)
Barrel looks great..no twists bends bulges etc...rifling is sharp...bright shiny bore... etc.... It will not close on a field gauge... (I should get a whole set)
So, to the esteemed group that is here that has much more knowledge than I do with this particular rifle, I do take heed of the yellow....
Inspecting the area where the yellow is and it is only on the buttstock. The surrounding wood does NOT appear to have been refinished, stripped or sanded in anyway to indicate that the rifle had any yellow removed... Could it be possible it came into contact iwth a marked rifle in a rack? I do no t know.
If I rifle came back to an armorer for a once over WHAT key points of inspection are done? Not that it really matters to this rifle but for general knowledge I would like to know the process. It can go far to help in making an initial assessment of a rifle prior to purchase.
Even if this rifle checks out find I do not think I can bring myself to fire it.....why batter a piece of history....will it be worth a fortune...NO...of course not...but it is still history nonetheless....
I think I have decided to use some no4's for range use....not that it wouldn't be nice to put some handloads down the beast and see how she does
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The biggest thing to check over is for head space. If in fact the headspace is a bit loose its somewhat easily fixed by purchasing another bolt head with a tad more thickness, and that just threads on with fingers.
As a counter point to Peter's mention of cadet rifles there has been plenty of discussion here that cadet rifles have seen less shooting than soldiers weapons and may have been much better maintained as cleaning is part of a cadets routine. There have been many owners of cadet enfields that are very happy with their rifles and I'd be quite happy to own and shoot one. Peter knows his stuff, so I'll always defer to his advice, and checking the rifle over is a good thing. It sounds like you know what you're doing with a rifle, go shooting if the headspace is good.
If the butt plate has lots of pitting from parade ground thumping then check the stock for cracks, then shoot it.
The only thing to be sure of is, tighten all screws, and make doubly sure that the big screw in front of the magazine is not loose. If thats not clamping on the wood it will split the stock length ways, right in front of your face ie got eyes? always always shoot with safety glasses.