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    Arrow old 303 ammo

    I was wondering if anyone knew where to get 215 gr silver or lead jacketed 303 ammo because I want to shoot that in my smle no.1 mkI. the reason is that my smle is marked "HV" on the barrel, NOT hv-sc so it is still only supposed to use that type of ammo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smle13 View Post
    I was wondering if anyone knew where to get 215 gr silver or lead jacketed 303 ammo because I want to shoot that in my smle no.1 mkI. the reason is that my smle is marked "HV" on the barrel, NOT hv-sc so it is still only supposed to use that type of ammo?

    Thanks!!
    Depends where you are;
    In the UK, Kynoch are making / selling 215 grain 303
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    Kynoch .303 British

    If you are elswhere then maybe you can find a Kynoch distributor
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    do you know if the make those rounds with like a silver jacket because all of the early ww1 ammunition was a kind of gray like lead or silver?

    Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smle13 View Post
    do you know if the make those rounds with like a silver jacket because all of the early ww1 ammunition was a kind of gray like lead or silver?

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    Are you hunting Vampires or are you the Lone Ranger ?

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    thanks!! the reason I want that ammo is because I want to shoot what is meant to be shot in it.

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    While the rifle was designed for Mk.VI ammo the HV means that the sights were altered to take Mk.VII so that is what the army used.
    The silver jackets are a nickel based alloy which was replaced by the copper based alloy in the later ammunition as it fouled less and was easier to clean.

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    thanks! that picture that you posted of the ammo is great too. i just wanted the nickel jacketed ammo to maybe shoot 4 or five rounds, but it was mainly for a presentational thing. I just really like the way it looks, but cant seem to find any.

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    The "silver" jacket metal of the early smokeless-powder era is cupronickel, an alloy of ~20% nickel and 80% copper. After WWI, it was largely supplanted by mild steel, "gilding metal" (~5% zinc and 95% copper), or steel plated with a thin layer of a mostly-copper alloy, none of which leave the lumpy, persistent jacket fouling characteristic of cupronickel in high-velocity loads. Furthermore, nickel is considerably more costly than the alternatives and strategically important for applications where its properties are advantageous.

    Few modern enthusiasts would choose cupronickel-jacketed bullets even if they were still being manufactured. The gilding-metal used on most jacketed bullets sold today offers superior performance and is entirely suitable for any .303 in good condition - from the first Lee-Metford to the last No.4 Mk.2.

    Bottom line: there are no advantages to cupronickel jackets that outweigh their significant disadvantages.
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    Except the one stated: It LOOKS the part.

    Otherwise, Parashooter, I agree!

    I wouldn't want to shoot the stuff either.

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    i would just like 10 or 20 rounds of it to use in my collection or a display. I like the way it looks.

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