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[Harlan (Deceased)]

I haven't looked at M1 carbine items listed on Ebay for a long time but logged on tonight out of curiosity. There were more bugus ads than I've ever seen claiming authentic type I (new) barrel bands with a story it was handed down from grandfather etc, etc.

I guess they're preying on all the new carbine owners and it still makes me sick they get by with it. Old news I know.

This 'Authentic WWII sling' had to be the worst fake and outright fraud I've seen though. "More than ten available"

Original Mint WWII M1 Carbine Sling - eBay (item 180349714714 end time Jul-22-09 04:50:29 PDT)

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[Bill Ricca]

Great Post!

Glad to see somebody is keeping up with exposing fakes.

[painter777]

The fake stock stamps....Make me sick.

Charlie

[painter777]

What about these........

Charlie-painter777

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133375753
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133376712
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133377212

[BHP]

I'm a noob and got hosed on a carbine sling (ebay'er ezdealz4u) back in December. Advertised as new USGI Vietnam. Was a repro. If I live long enough, I might learn something. The name should have been a clue, right? Underneath his name should have read, "We finance E-1 and up..."

[Garandeguy10]

What about these........

Charlie-painter777

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133375753
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133376712
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133377212

Umm, Why do all of those rear flips sights from different factorys look like they came of of the same assembly line in Korea with different markings put on them in Modesto, Ca??

[painter777]

Now I could use one of these, a nice real one would be nice !!


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=133957807

[75BShooter]

Note that there are bidder for the repro's... Figure that????

[kikokat]

That's our old friend George (a rose by any other name etc.).

You'd think by now he'd have bought a better set of stamps.

Sad that folks like that make money "educating" the newbies.

[Sequatchie]

I couldn't help but respond to this "chain", but wanted to put in my 2 cents worth.

While I am sure the wholesale criticism of items is self-gratifying to some of you, why don't you provide a positive aspect to this topic by explaining to us "non-experts" how to spot "fakes" or mis-represented pieces?

A fake is something that is deliberately intended to misrepresent an original items.

A reproduction fall into a different category, as they are often represented as originals, but usually not marked or manufactured to the original standards. "At the Front" and "APCO" are examples of vendors who demonstate good character by Marking their items so as to id them as repros.

The carbine slings you reference below are not reproductions, but manufactured during and after WWII by an allied country. Folks who were involved in bringing them into the US, from northern Thailand several years ago believed them to be "reverse" lend lease as they were found warehoused with unissued 2-cell "Boyt 42"-marked carbine pouches and other unissued USGI gear. All the US items were packaged in period shipping crates, much of the canvas and metal/brass showed considerable signs of poor storage. These definitely do not fall into the category of fake or reproduction.

Bill Ricca has lots of experience with lend lease items as he has had many of them offered for sale since at least the early 1980s. Perhaps Bill can shed light on the slings.

I haven't looked at M1 carbine items listed on Ebay for a long time but logged on tonight out of curiosity. There were more bugus ads than I've ever seen claiming authentic type I (new) barrel bands with a story it was handed down from grandfather etc, etc.

I guess they're preying on all the new carbine owners and it still makes me sick they get by with it. Old news I know.

This 'Authentic WWII sling' had to be the worst fake and outright fraud I've seen though. "More than ten available"

Original Mint WWII M1 Carbine Sling - eBay (item 180349714714 end time Jul-22-09 04:50:29 PDT)