Semi-auto M14?

**Stevo** · 10-09-2009 05:42 PM

Where there semi only M14 icon

's made either for US or foreign military contracts? I heard this the other day and have no idea if it's true or not.

No, I don't mean M1As or Polytechs or Norincos.

Thanks.

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**noslack 327** · 10-09-2009 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stevo

Where there semi only M14 icon

's made either for US or foreign military contracts? I heard this the other day and have no idea if it's true or not.

No, I don't mean M1As or Polytechs or Norincos.

Thanks.

TRW NATIONAL MATCH

**Stevo** · 10-09-2009 07:13 PM

Thank you. Did TRW make semi's in NM configuration only, or did they do service rifles, too?

**JAS** · 10-10-2009 12:31 AM

A lot of standard service M14 icon

's were issued with the selector lock out which made them semi automatic only. M14's were only capable of full auto fire if the selector switch was installed.

**noslack 327** · 10-10-2009 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Stevo

Thank you. Did TRW make semi's in NM configuration only, or did they do service rifles, too?

TRW MADE SERVICE RIFLES ALSO. THE NM WERE INTENDED TO BE SEMI AUTO ONLY, THERE WAS A COURT CASE CONCERNING ONE OF THE NM RIFLES.

**Stevo** · 10-10-2009 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by JAS

A lot of standard service M14's were issued with the selector lock out which made them semi automatic only. M14's were only capable of full auto fire if the selector switch was installed.

I was referring to M14s built without any of the FA bits, like an M1A icon

or Polytech.

Originally Posted by noslack 327

TRW MADE SERVICE RIFLES ALSO. THE NM WERE INTENDED TO BE SEMI AUTO ONLY, THERE WAS A COURT CASE CONCERNING ONE OF THE NM RIFLES.

I know TRW built select-fire M14s. I was asking if they built any semi-only, non-NM guns for military service.

**Too Much Coffee** · 10-10-2009 11:30 AM

Stevo

There would not be a need to build military use semi-auto version. All you have to do is remove selector mech. and you have semi-auto. I believe the NM models were made for civilian use in NM competition. Military could not legally give out a full auto gun to civilians. I think the court case/BATF issue was that a receiver "once a machine gun is always a machine gun". State rifle associations had m14s on loan for match shooting, I do not know what they were, NM semi-auto or welded up/cut selector area full auto?

**LavaTech** · 10-10-2009 05:56 PM

AFAI recall, the TRW NM rifles produced were quite few, but they NEVER HAD the selector shaft boss hanging off the mating surface of the receiver and thus could NOT BE considered "M14 icon

's". You simply couldn't hang the parts on them! If'n my memory blows, please correct me.

Just to clarify...they were M14's as far as design, (less the FA selectability).

**Stevo** · 10-10-2009 06:50 PM

Thanks for the info, gents.

**jjroth** · 10-11-2009 11:33 PM

early 1980's, had an article about the semi's based on the M14 icon

action.

These were made at the Springfield Armory, without the leg for the full auto parts and
dismounted the OP-rod using the M1 Garand system.

The Gas cylinder didnot use the cut-off spindle, just a thru hole for gas feed.

I think 30(?) were made for testing, but were determined as to be:

1) not a standard rifle (per M14)

2) the ATF stood fast on "Designed as a class III, always a class III"

3) DOD determine that diversion of part and second line was deterimental to
manufacturing of the M14.

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