Variances in ejectors. A Question.

[imarangemaster]

My 3,09X,XXX CMP Inland has a flat Inland bolt with correct type I ejector. When I fire it, it makes a lovely little pile of brass at about 4:30 to 5:00 O'Clock just behind me. After I first got it, I shot a magazine from the hip (arm in a sling) just to function test it. It did the same with the 5 shot sight in group today. I think it is awesome. Finding brass will be easy and predictable.

My question is this: My Underwood had a round bolt with a Type II (I think) ejector. Instead of the multiple angles on the face of the Type I, it was very flat. While it did throw the brass farther than the type I, it also tossed it literally all over the place, between 1:00 and 4:00 O'Clock. Finding brass was horrible. My AK was like that, too.

While I realize the military could care less about finding brass, I am curious why they made the change in design, when the type I seemed to work so well! I would think if the pile is consistent, the ejection process is consistent. If the ejection pattern is erratic, the process is not as consistent.

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[Curt]

If the ejection pattern is erratic your not holding it still enough!

[imarangemaster]

Haha As cold as it is that is probably true....

[ulflyer]

I've got some that do the same; neat little piles or all over the place.
Never thought to compare ejectors. In fact, I have no idea what type I have in mine! With the cold wx we're having I surely won't be out on the range so this will be a good time to check and document the ejectors.

[dbarn]

Like a lot of things made during the War, part of the reason may have been to simplify the mfg. process. My Bulgarian AK ejects predictably. It will predictably hit the guy in the third station down from where I shoot some 20 ft away!

Did not know which was more fun. Aiming for the target or the poor guy in third station.

[jmoore]

Doesn't the hooked extention of the late operating "rod" (I'm making do w/ Garand terminology, its been a LONG night...) change the ejection pattern, making it more "directed"?

[dbarn]

Yes, which was produced later in the war. I liken the ejector on the carbine to the 1911 as well. Now days the ejector on most new 1911's is flat faced. Pulled a 1940 Colt out of the safe and looked at the ejector. It's angled.

[DaveHH]

I replaced the recoil spring and it now goes to 1:00, where I want it. The lack of lubrication (no grease) can cause erratic ejection as well.

[imarangemaster]

Doesn't the hooked extention of the late operating "rod" (I'm making do w/ Garand terminology, its been a LONG night...) change the ejection pattern, making it more "directed"?

Now that I think of it, the Underwood have a type V slide with the longer "hook" as you call it, as well as the type II ejector. My Inland has the type III with the shorter one and the type I ejector.

[jmoore]

Now I'm really confused- The "improved" slide weapon has the erratic ejection pattern?

I like the later version to prevent the 5:00-5:30 ejection that sends empties at my forehead when shooting LH.