Gun Machine 7.62mm "1B"

[paulseamus]

Very familar looking machine gun - BREN still manufatured in the sub continent

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[Peter Laidler]

They know when they're on to a good thing.................

The longest serving bit of kit in the British Army too..............

[Brit plumber]

If KG is about, he will give you some info on them, I've been looking for a deac version myself, I know a number came into the UK about 4 years back but there scarce now. Anyone have one for sale?

[Peter Laidler]

As I understand it, the 1B is a 'new build' gun as opposed to a conversion. I'll ask our Indial Liaison Offr. to get the details for the benefit of the forum

[Kev G]

Yes new build guns,and very nicely done too.



ATB Kevin

[csmarcher]

Wow.............

[Peter Laidler]

Is the 1B fully interchangeable-ish with the L4A2 series KG? Barrel nuts, mag catch assembly ?

[tankhunter]

They know when they're on to a good thing.................

The longest serving bit of kit in the British Army too..............

Peter, I belive they make the L2A3 Sterling under Licence as well.
One of MY Favourites!

[Peter Laidler]

They do indeed STILL make the Sterling. What a shame that the little Sterling company only charged them a £6,000 single one-off payment for the manufacturing rights. Maybe with hindsight, they should have just plumped for royalties...............

We had 4 Indian Sterlings in our armoury not 6 months ago when a cou-ple of companies of the Jats (Indian Army) were training here. While I didn't try interchangeability, they certainly looked identical and fired exactly the same on the ranges. You'd be suprised how few in the UK Military haven't even hEARD of the Sterling or even SMG's....., let alone used one!

They say that the Bren was the Centurion tank of small arms. If that's the case, then the Sterling MUST be the Land Rover. And talking of which, that is Indian owned now and is equipping the Indian Army as we speak.

With events in Asia as they are, I have to say that I'm glad the Indians are on our side..............

[Kev G]

Is the 1B fully interchangeable-ish with the L4A2 series KG? Barrel nuts, mag catch assembly ?

Yes Peter all parts/asemblies inc the ejector block are the same as the L4A4 and Indian 1A 15GA 7.62 conversions.



The only differences in the new built 1B 16GA guns are slightly different machining to the top of the body and a thicker wall to the strengthening web to the top of the magazine well, putting back some material that the converted guns had to sacrifice for the wider 7.62 mag.



The Indian 7.62 guns also had their own distinct style of flash hider with ovoid machining cuts.



ATB Kevin