Reference Thread - Poulins and James Julia Auctions (March 7-11, 2008)

[Lance]

Some of the Stern No.4 T's just popped up on Gunbroker, the two listed were two of the three worst examples there. I did not even bother to stay at the auction to see what they originally sold for.

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[Badger]

Anyone know what the set of PIATs in the crate sold for?

The Piat's sold for between $3-4k (did not write it down) in a nice Greek transit chest. I would of like one but did not/could not afford the whole lot.

Here you go …

Price includes auction house Buyer's Premium of 15-17%

THREE (3) BRITISH P.I.A.T. ANTI-TANK WEAPONS. SN IC/A54633: IC/BZ12456: GZ14565. Cal. 88mm - The P.I.A.T. (Projector, Infantry, Anti-Tank) was an active anti-tank launcher for the British Infantry from 1942 to 1950. Here we have 3 fantastic specimens packaged in a Greek WWII Army issue wooden crate. There is an inert / practice round included with each launcher for a total of 3. The projectile launched was an 88mm, 3 pound warhead with an impact fuse and was launched by a propelling charge in a hollow tail between the warhead and the stabilizing fins. Although it had a reasonable maximum range, the actual range it was found to be effective was in the area of 100 yards or so. The launchers measure 39 inches in length and weigh approximately 32 pounds. They have a bipod that mounts in a ring area in front of tube. They utilize a large internal spring to assist in the firing mechanism and to help tame the enormous recoil. The shoulder piece has a rubber filled, canvas pad laced on the stock section and 2 tan, web slings on the right side of the launcher. The rear sight (aiming mechanism) is on the left side of the tube behind the pistol grip and the front sight is a folding pin located above the front of the trigger guard. A small cork (on a retention chain) is attached to the tube on the right side. The cork is used to plug the mechanism after it is cocked, before loading the projectile. The steel pistol grip is covered with a black plastic, 2-piece covering. It is important to note that the BATFE had listed these in Section III of the Curios & Relics List: Weapons Removed From The NFA As Collector's Items And Classified As Curios Or Relics Under The GCA. These are no longer NFA firearms and simply transfer as standard, Title I firearms! No transfer fees and no NFA style paperwork wait. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Good – These interesting launchers are a great find, especially with their practice rounds and fitted wooden crate. It would be a great addition to any collection or just an opportunity for a few buddies to chip in on something really unique and reasonably priced. 4-34680 JZ99 (2,800-3,800)

Sold for $5,750 U.S.

Regards,
Badger

[Badger]

Some of the Stern No.4 T's just popped up on Gunbroker, the two listed were two of the three worst examples there. I did not even bother to stay at the auction to see what they originally sold for.

Are these the ones?

All prices include auction house Buyer's Premium of 15-17%

278 *BRITISH NUMBER IV MARK I (T) SNIPER RIFLE. SN AQ7384. Cal. 303. These sniper versions of the Mark I were fitted with scope mounts on the left side of the receiver. Many of these rifles were converted by Holland & Holland and used various telescopes. This one is fitted with a Number 32 telescope. Rifle is also equipped with a spike bayonet and web frog as well as a leather sling with brass keepers. Rifle is equipped with a transit chest. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Rifle shows excellent with the receiver and trigger housing showing better than 95% orig finish. No pitting is present and it is very pleasing. The scope mount, which is numbered to the gun, has approximately 95% of black Parkerized finish. The telescope shows approximately 85% of its finish with some minor nicks through the enamel showing brass. Optics are clear. Leather brass lens caps are in excellent condition. Middle and front bbl bands retain better than 85% orig finish as does the front sight and bbl assembly. Upper handguards show only the slightest of scuffing as does the front wood. Rear receiver wood and buttstock show a little more scarring with a couple of significant bruises at the bottom of the wrist (buttstock retains a different SN). Cheekpiece and aluminum buttplate show excellent with no dents or scarring at all. Action is crisp and bore is bright and shiny, showing light wear. All in all a pretty nice number IV. Transit chest is in good condition. 4-34080 BK122 (2,800-3,800)

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Sold for $4,888 U.S.



279 *NUMBER IV MARK I (T) BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE. SN S39516. Cal. 303. These sniper versions of the Mark I were fitted with scope mounts on the left side of the receiver. Many of these rifles were converted by Holland & Holland and used various telescopes. This one is fitted with a Number 32 telescope. Rifle is also equipped with a spike bayonet and web frog as well as a leather sling with brass keepers. Also includes very nice British web scope case and transit chest. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Receiver retains approximately 95% of a possible re-finish dark gray Parkerizing as does the matching scope mount. Telescope is a number 32, showing better than 95% of orig enamel with crystal clear optics that show nearly new. It also has a red "W" and blue "B" painted on the sides. Scope caps are also excellent. Bbl shows better than 95% orig blue with just slight markings from having the bayonet taken on and off. Front sight and bands show better than 95% orig finish. Upper handguards are in exceptional condition with one or two very slight bruises in the front one. Lower guards, which are matching number to gun, are also in magnificent shape showing very little marks at all. Triggerguard and magazine assembly show better than 90% orig black matte finish. Buttstock and cheekpiece are in excellent condition (though not matching) with just a minimal of bruising as is the brass buttplate. A very nice Number IV sniper rifle with crisp action and excellent bright and shiny bore. 4-34081 BK124 (3,300-4,550)

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Sold for $7,475 U.S.



282 *NUMBER IV MARK I (T) BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE. SN H37807. Cal. 303. These sniper versions of the Mark I were fitted with scope mounts on the left side of the receiver. Many of these rifles were converted by Holland & Holland and used various telescopes. This one is fitted with a Number 32 telescope. Rifle is also equipped with a blade bayonet Number 7 MK I/L for British rifles, that appears to be adaptable to more than one type of rifle and should be looked at very closely, the web frog as well as a leather sling with steel keepers are present. Magazine well and buttstock are not numbered to this gun but are in like condition. Rifle is equipped with a transit chest. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Rifle retains what appears to be a re-Parkerized finish with the receiver and matching scope base retaining better than 98%. Bbl bands remain in excellent condition and retains 98% finish. Exposed portion of the bbl showing about 85% with some light scratching from installation of the bayonet. Bayonet is a knife blade with mica, or plasitc, handles with "England" embossed in the left grip. Upper handguards are in very good condition with the front one showing just a couple of light bruises and the rear showing near mint. Lower handguard and front stock assembly is in very good condition, being numbered to this gun, with very prominent proof marks. Triggerguard assembly shows 98% of orig blue and the buttstock is in exceptional condition showing little to no scarring at all. Cheekpiece is also in excellent condition as is buttplate. Telescope shows 90% finish with what appears to be some touch-up on the front sunshade and a red stenciled "W" upside down on the right side. Optics are excellent as are scope caps. Action is crisp and bore is bright and shiny showing little to no wear. Transit chest is in good condition. 4-34079 BK123 (2,800-4,300)

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Sold for $3,450 U.S.



369 *ENFIELD NUMBER 4 MARK I SNIPER RIFLE. SN 14C0725. Cal. 303 Brit. Savage made Enfield with 25" bbl, standard sights and 2-pc walnut stock with 2-pc upper handguard that has serrations on each side of the rear guard and it has a British brass & canvas sling. The comb has a screwed on wood cheekpiece and a gray metal buttplate with trap. Left side of receiver has the standard British sniper mount that has been renumbered a couple of times and contains a No. 32 MKIII sniper scope with serial number "18187" and dated "1945". Several thousand of these rifles were modified into sniper rifles by the British, particularly by Holland & Holland. CONDITION: Fine to very fine. The receiver, receiver ring & trigger guard retain most of their fine gray parkerized finish with bbl bands a thinned gray brown finish. Scope & mount retain most of their arsenal restored finish. Wood is sound with numerous nicks & dings and retains a hand worn patina. Mechanics are fine, strong bright bore with scattered light pitting. Optics are crisp & clear. 4-31822 (2,000-3,000)

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Sold for $2,875 U.S.

Here it is being re-sold on Gunbroker (click here) with a starting bid of $3,995.00

It didn't sell in his third auction attempt at that price, so ... Re-listed Gunbroker Auction (click here) still with a starting bid of $3,550.00 and a BUY NOW of $3,599.00 Finally sold for $2,800.00 U.S. (click here). I think he lost money on this one ...




370 *ENFIELD NO. 4 MARK I SNIPER RIFLE. SN L38636. Cal. 303 Brit. Usual configuration with 25-1/4" bbl, standard front sight with a 1,300 meter ladder rear sight. Left side of receiver has standard British sniper bases but, unfortunately is missing scope. Receiver ring is dated "1944". Mounted in a 2-pc walnut stock with 2-pc handguard and a white metal buttplate with trap. Comb of stock has a screwed-on cheekpiece. CONDITION: Rifle shows approx 95% of an arsenal finish on the receiver and trigger group. Bbl bands, bbl and front sight assembly show approx 75% enamel finish with some scratches. Buttstock and handguards show good overall, having been cleaned and arsenal refinished with only minor scuffing. Magazine shows a plum finish overall. Mechanics are fine, strong sharp bore that should clean very well. 4-31832 (700-1,000)

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Sold for $805 U.S.

It was re-sold on Gunbroker (click here) with a "buy now" bid of $1,299.00.



371 *BRITISH ENFIELD NO. 4 MARK I SNIPER RIFLE. SN 30721. Cal. 303 Brit. Usual configuration with 25-1/4" bbl, standard front sight with a 300 & 600 yard 2-position flip rear sight. Left side of receiver has standard British sniper bases but, unfortunately is missing scope. Receiver ring is dated "1944". Mounted in a 2-pc walnut stock with 2-pc handguard and a white metal buttplate with trap. CONDITION: Fine. Metal retains most of its orig arsenal finish with magazine retaining about 85% finish. Wood is sound with nicks & dings and a hairline crack by receiver ring in forestock and retains an arsenal restored finish. Mechanics are fine, brilliant shiny bore. 4-31831 (700-1,000)

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Sold for $748 U.S.

It was re-sold Gunbroker (click here) with a "buy now" bid of $1,350.00.

Regards,
Badger

[Badger]

For you L42 collectors .....

All prices include auction house Buyer's Premium of 15-17%

283 *BRITISH ENFIELD L42A1 SNIPER RIFLE. SN M37044. Introduced in 1970, this rifle is a converted number 4 (T) chambered for the 7.62mm cartridge. Half stocked with upper handguard with 27.6" heavy barrel. A converted number 32 Mark 3 scope is used marked, "TEL.STRT.STG.L1A1." Rifle is complete with crate , manual and accessories. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Overall shows good with the receiver showing approximately 90% to 95% enamel finish and the bbl showing approx 85% finish with a slightly frosty bore. Upper and lower handguard show good overall with the upper being a replacement as the color is slightly off. Buttstock and cheekpiece show good with only light scuffing present and a slight arsenal repair just in front of the buttplate on top. Scope shows approx 65% to 70% enamel with the balance flaking to brass and clear optics. Leather scope caps show good. Sling is good. 4-34008 BK142 (1,500-2,000)

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Sold for $3,105 U.S.



284 *BRITISH ENFIELD L42A1 SNIPER RIFLE. SN N31729. Introduced in 1970, this rifle is a converted number 4 (T) chambered for the 7.62mm cartridge. Half stocked with upper handguard with 27.6" heavy barrel. A converted number 32 Mark 3 scope is used marked, "TEL.STRT.STG.L1A1." Rifle is complete with crate, manual and accessories. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Rifle shows good overall condition with the receiver and scope mount showing approx 95% of the applied black enamel finish. Bbl also shows approx 95%. Upper and lower handguards show near excellent, showing no abuse at all. Buttstock and cheekpiece show very good with light scattered rub marks with an arsenal repair on the top of the stock directly in front of the buttplate. Scope shows near excellent with 98% of finish intact and clear optics. Leather scope caps show new. Sling shows excellent. 4-33993 BK143 (2,200-2,600)

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Sold for $5,175 U.S.



285 *BRITISH L42A1 SNIPER RIFLE WITH CRATE. SN A32542. Introduced in 1970, this rifle is a converted number 4 (T) chambered for the 7.62mm cartridge. Half stocked with upper handguard with 27.6" heavy barrel. A converted number 32 Mark 3 scope is used marked, "TEL.STRT.STG.L1A1." Rifle is complete with crate, manual and accessories. PROVENANCE: Stern Collection. CONDITION: Overall condition is good with a slightly frosty bore. Rifle retains approx 85% to 90% of the added black enamel finish from when it was remanufactured. Upper and lower handguards show good overall with only light scuffing present as rebuilt. Buttstock with added cheekpiece also show very good overall with only light scuffing present. Telescope has crystal clear optics with leather scope caps that show new. 4-34043 BK141 (2,000-2,700)

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Sold for $4,888 U.S.


Regards,
Badger

[Badger]

369 *ENFIELD NUMBER 4 MARK I SNIPER RIFLE. SN 14C0725. Cal. 303 Brit. Savage made Enfield with 25" bbl, standard sights and 2-pc walnut stock with 2-pc upper handguard that has serrations on each side of the rear guard and it has a British brass & canvas sling. The comb has a screwed on wood cheekpiece and a gray metal buttplate with trap. Left side of receiver has the standard British sniper mount that has been renumbered a couple of times and contains a No. 32 MKIII sniper scope with serial number "18187" and dated "1945". Several thousand of these rifles were modified into sniper rifles by the British, particularly by Holland & Holland. CONDITION: Fine to very fine. The receiver, receiver ring & trigger guard retain most of their fine gray parkerized finish with bbl bands a thinned gray brown finish. Scope & mount retain most of their arsenal restored finish. Wood is sound with numerous nicks & dings and retains a hand worn patina. Mechanics are fine, strong bright bore with scattered light pitting. Optics are crisp & clear. 4-31822 (2,000-3,000)

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Sold for $2,875 U.S.

Here it is being re-sold on Gunbroker (click here) with a starting bid of $3,995.00

It didn't sell in his third auction attempt at that price, so ... Re-listed Gunbroker Auction (click here) still with a starting bid of $3,550.00 and a BUY NOW of $3,599.00 Finally sold for $2,800.00 U.S. (click here). I think he lost money on this one ...

A follow up ....

I saw this posted by Peter over on Jouster's Enfield boards. I don't think he'd mind it repeated here for our members as well.

Re: I'm calling "Shenanigans!"
Posted By: Peter Laidler
Date: Sun 16 Mar 2008 7:42 am

If the telescope is 18187, then buyer beware. This scope was repaired by me from derelict condition in February 2001. It was one of a batch that came in from India.

Another bit of useless info for you forumers.............

Note the scope number in the James Julia Auction listing as "18187" and dated "1945". Sounds like the same one to me that Peter refers to.

Regards,
Badger