1. It appears that you are you're enjoying our Military Surplus Collectors Forums, but haven't created an account yet. As an unregistered guest, your are unable to post and are limited to the amount of viewing time you will receive, so why not take a minute to Register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to our forums and knowledge libraries, plus the ability to post your own messages and communicate directly with other members. So, if you'd like to join our community, please CLICK HERE to Register !

    Already a member? Login at the top right corner of this page to stop seeing this message.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    scmcgeorge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2019 @ 02:10 PM
    Posts
    13
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    10:22 AM

    Rear sight component finishes

    JB and others: What were the original finishes applied to M1903 rear sight components up through , say 1920? TIA Steve McGeorge
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. #2
    Advisory Panel John Beard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Last On
    06-29-2025 @ 07:57 PM
    Location
    Sweet Home Alabama
    Posts
    1,098
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM
    Niter blue.

    J.B.

  3. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    scmcgeorge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-04-2019 @ 02:10 PM
    Posts
    13
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    10:22 AM
    Thread Starter
    Mr Beardicon: many thanks.... Steve McG

  4. #4
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    DeputyBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    10-26-2012 @ 05:38 AM
    Posts
    52
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by scmcgeorge View Post
    JB and others: What were the original finishes applied to M1903 rear sight components up through , say 1920? TIA Steve McGeorge
    IIRC,
    Color case-hardening is correct for RIA leaf sights. I can't locate the source but, I seem to recall that being right.

    *Yes, this thread is a little dated; just hope this might still help.

  5. #5
    Legacy Member RCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 05:11 PM
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    4,471
    Real Name
    Robert Seccombe
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM

    early RIA rear sight

    here is a photo of the rear sight on Rock Island s/n 64145 with RIA 3-07 barrel. The rear sight is without the rib on the back of the leaf, also note the early rear sight base

  6. #6
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    DeputyBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    10-26-2012 @ 05:38 AM
    Posts
    52
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    here is a photo of the rear sight on Rock Island s/n 64145 with RIA 3-07 barrel. The rear sight is without the rib on the back of the leaf, also note the early rear sight base
    Thanks, RCS.
    That appears to be niter blue -not color case-hardened.
    Now that I think about it, maybe I'm confusing the finish with the fact that RIA rear sight bases have an "H" for "Hardened" stamped into them.

  7. #7
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-27-2025 @ 04:58 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    62
    Posts
    3,199
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    08:22 AM
    in my observations over the years..the first 1903,s {rod bayonet} has a mix of color case hardened parts,..bolt. cutoff, trigger, some pins ect..as production really got going heat treat blue {niter} or oil quench blue finish was the norm on most small parts, sights, pins, triggers ect.. WW2 and post war production blue was standard black oxide.
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  8. #8
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    DeputyBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    10-26-2012 @ 05:38 AM
    Posts
    52
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckindenver View Post
    ...the first 1903,s {rod bayonet} has a mix of color case hardened parts,..bolt. cutoff, trigger, some pins ect..as production really got going heat treat blue {niter} or oil quench blue finish was the norm on most small parts, sights, pins, triggers ect...
    Chuck,
    In your estimation, would a color case-hardened sight be from a rod bayonet rifle, then?
    TIA, Bill

  9. #9
    Advisory Panel Chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-27-2025 @ 04:58 PM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    62
    Posts
    3,199
    Real Name
    chuck
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    08:22 AM
    hard to say for sure, the only unmolested Rod bayonet rifle iv looked at is in the RIA museum, sits to high to see the sight closely...it does have a color case hardened bolt handle though, as well as guard screws and the rod bayonet tip..been a long time since i looked at it.
    id have to dig out the pictures...and with my work load...that may be a while.
    warpath metal finishing contact info.
    molinenorski@msn.com
    720-841-1399 during normal bus, hours.

  10. #10
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    DeputyBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    10-26-2012 @ 05:38 AM
    Posts
    52
    Local Date
    07-01-2025
    Local Time
    09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckindenver View Post
    hard to say for sure, the only unmolested Rod bayonet rifle iv looked at is in the RIA museum, sits to high to see the sight closely...
    Well, I just realized the sight leaf I had in mind doesn't have the volley notch...
    So much for wishful thinking!

    Thanks just the same.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. I.R. Co. rear sight
    By rdpinwa in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 06-14-2011, 05:19 PM
  2. M1 garand rear sight WW2 sight
    By nchristian in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-18-2010, 11:19 AM
  3. 03 rear sight
    By LiamH in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-17-2009, 09:45 PM
  4. Component Shortages
    By Matt Anthony in forum Ammunition and Reloading for Old Milsurps
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-27-2009, 11:49 PM
  5. Rear sight base for Target Sight
    By m1903rifle in forum .22 Smallbore
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-03-2009, 01:02 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts