Enfield number 5 Mk 1 Bayonet help

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I have decided I must complete my Number 5 "Jungle Carbine" with the appropriate bayonet.
I have bid in several on ebay but they are quite the hot item. I can not bring myself to spend more on an accessory than I did on a very nice Number 5. Any ideas where one could be purchased without me having to sell the rifle to buy it? Anyone have an opinion on the Indian remakes as to quality? I may be forced to purchase one until I can obtain an original.

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[teal]

IF you want a genuine no5 bayonet JC Militaria in the UK usually has them in stock, they may be pricey but i think your beautiful no5 deserves the real thing.

[GySgt USMC]

I would say to just keep searching and searching sooner or later you will come up on great deal.
I am like you Ive constantly been searching for the bayonet and scabbard for my Jungle Carbine.
just hadn't come across the right deal yet.

As for the India remakes, heard say they were thinner on the blade portion then the original
and that the metal used isn't that great, but then again if you don't plan on any hard Bayonet Charges !!!
you probably do alright to fill the void till a original comes around.

I've been considering possibly having to go that route myself, and if so I will get one from IMA-USA
they seem to have about the best deal going on those India remakes....

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IF you want a genuine no5 bayonet JC Militaria in the UK usually has them in stock, they may be pricey but i think your beautiful no5 deserves the real thing.

Have one listed as sold that would have matched my wood PERFECTLY!
mY LUCK.

[LesterH]

Keep away from these Indian made Snide No5 bayonets. Its easy to spot the fakes they don't have the oil hole in the mortise.
The going rate in the UK for a No5 bayonet is £150+.
The most expensive No5 bayonets are the single screw hand grips. Not many about the handles cracked.
The next most popular are the Cutlery manufacturers like Viners, Wilkinson Sword and Hopkinsons.
Poole RSAF made the No5 bayonet circa 1946 onwards.
Sterlings in Dagenham. Made the No5 Bayonet for the Stirling SMG. Their main subcontractor is Hopkinsons ( Look for the H stamping on the pommel). These tend to have a metal hand grip and can be mistaken for the SLR bayonet. I have a post 1982 production with the L1A4 blade. If you see Sterling stamped on the blade it's the commercial version . For the export market.
For an idea of value. I paid £125.00 for my average condition Viners No5 bayonet. I paid £90.00 for a mint 1946 Poole Ordnence Factory No5 bayonet ( a gun dealer owed me a favour). My Sterling No5 bayonet cost £100, which was bought in with a job lot.
JC Militaria in the UK are a trustworthy company to deal with. Their kit is expensive but genuine and good condition. ( I bought a long Garand bayonet from him).
Don't worry if you have not got a scabbard with your No5 bayonet. The No7,No9 and SLR bayonet scabbards fit. Ideally you want a pointed tip scabbard but it does not matter.
Cheapest way to get a mint scabbard? Purchase a British SLR bayonet & scabbard from Henry Krank for £25.00 ( If you are in the USA you will not need to pay the 20%vat). Another source is Worldwide Arms but they want £23 just for a scabbard!
If you loose the screw in the scabbard it's a 2BA. Availible from your nearest shop that sells gas boilers!
Any more info on the No5 just ask. Buy British buy the best bayonets! Lester

[GySgt USMC]

Have one listed as sold that would have matched my wood PERFECTLY!
mY LUCK.

Yeah I saw that on JC Militaria, it looked like a real nice one

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Keep away from these Indian made Snide No5 bayonets. Its easy to spot the fakes they don't have the oil hole in the mortise.
The going rate in the UK for a No5 bayonet is £150+.
The most expensive No5 bayonets are the single screw hand grips. Not many about the handles cracked.
The next most popular are the Cutlery manufacturers like Viners, Wilkinson Sword and Hopkinsons.
Poole RSAF made the No5 bayonet circa 1946 onwards.
Sterlings in Dagenham. Made the No5 Bayonet for the Stirling SMG. Their main subcontractor is Hopkinsons ( Look for the H stamping on the pommel). These tend to have a metal hand grip and can be mistaken for the SLR bayonet. I have a post 1982 production with the L1A4 blade. If you see Sterling stamped on the blade it's the commercial version . For the export market.
For an idea of value. I paid £125.00 for my average condition Viners No5 bayonet. I paid £90.00 for a mint 1946 Poole Ordnence Factory No5 bayonet ( a gun dealer owed me a favour). My Sterling No5 bayonet cost £100, which was bought in with a job lot.
JC Militaria in the UK are a trustworthy company to deal with. Their kit is expensive but genuine and good condition. ( I bought a long Garand bayonet from him).
Don't worry if you have not got a scabbard with your No5 bayonet. The No7,No9 and SLR bayonet scabbards fit. Ideally you want a pointed tip scabbard but it does not matter.
Cheapest way to get a mint scabbard? Purchase a British SLR bayonet & scabbard from Henry Krank for £25.00 ( If you are in the USA you will not need to pay the 20%vat). Another source is Worldwide Arms but they want £23 just for a scabbard!
If you loose the screw in the scabbard it's a 2BA. Availible from your nearest shop that sells gas boilers!
Any more info on the No5 just ask. Buy British buy the best bayonets! Lester

Hey LesterH,
Personally THANKS for the great wealth of information. I just learned some more things about the No.5 Bayonet that I didnt know.
Goes to show, you can still teach a old dog
I also heard that a lot of those India remakes wouldnt fit that well on the Carbine, Ive never been able to find one in person,
but just repeating what I had read on some forums about their fitting problem....

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Thanks. Ask for a glass of water and get fine wine. Very informative.

[LesterH]

From a chat elsewhere. I was told those Indian No5s are made for the tourist trade!. Better to spend your money on a proper No5, then you can always get some money back if you need to sell on one day. A few years ago a lot of Stirling SMGs were deactivated, but I have not seen any large amounts of No5 bayonets come on to the market. If you read "The Guns Of Dagenham" there is a hint amourers kept No5 bayonets as an unofficial currency! Some one must have some spare No5 bayonets, they made one to go with each No5 rifle and Stirling SMG ( however the Canadians fitted the C1 SLR bayonet to theirs).

[Peter Laidler]

Where is the 2BA screw in the No5 scabbard? Surely the mouthpiece screw is a machine head 6BA screw....yes?

[LesterH]

A 2BA screw fitted, but I had to file it shorter! Got it at an auto jumble.Made the mistake of buying scabbards etc in parts and not fully finished. The SLR book quotes No.6 x 3/16in long. I attempt to restore stuff but i cant always find the parts! Took me 22 years to find a spare K98 scabbard! Resently I bought in a load of No9 bayonets in poor condition but with good scabbards and this has solved my problems.
No5 bayonets are getting harder to find. My first one was a Viners, in poor condition with out a scabbard. Thank you for the info Lester