Enfield Sht 22 IV trainer

[Cantom]

I traded for one today, my 870 shotgun for one that's been for sale on the EE for a few weeks. Here's the pics, including two off the net showing the same rifle.







The Canadian Cooey rear sight shown above used the leaf from the Ross rifle

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[stencollector]

Nice trade.
I bought one at a Wpg gunshow about 6 years back for $150 (wood had been shortened but the ross sight was there). It was a fun rifle.
870 shotguns can be found anywhere, but Enfields are a limited breed.

[Cantom]

Nice trade.
I bought one at a Wpg gunshow about 6 years back for $150 (wood had been shortened but the ross sight was there). It was a fun rifle.
870 shotguns can be found anywhere, but Enfields are a limited breed.

My thought exactly...Enfields represent an enduring value...

[Claven2]

nice snag with the Ross sight. Don't worry about that crack in the stock. It's likely been there since the rifle was rebuilt. .22 recoil will never affect it.

[Cantom]

nice snag with the Ross sight. Don't worry about that crack in the stock. It's likely been there since the rifle was rebuilt. .22 recoil will never affect it.

The 870 I traded wasn't a run of the mill one, it was a Police Magnum 14" in new condition, so this rifle isn't coming cheaply. I just felt it was more what I wanted to own, especially with C/|\ marking on it...

[Cantom]

nice snag with the Ross sight. Don't worry about that crack in the stock. It's likely been there since the rifle was rebuilt. .22 recoil will never affect it.

I need a part for this- the rifle is in excellent shape, nice bluing, matching numbers, but I need a part and have a question.

The rifle is missing the original lanyard like screw on the left side of the sight assembly as shown here.



The rifle I got has this screw in it's place: (that is the C/|\ to the right of it)



It's otherwise very nice.





Another question- the magazine is a hollow shell. I've seen Canadian .22 rifles with a ramp to feed single rounds into the chamber. Should this rifle have one of those mags or was that a later invention for No 4 based trainers like the No 7?

[Claven2]

The correct mag for a Sht.22MkIV* is a hollow shell with 22 stamped into the side. Sometimes they weren't stammped 22 though. The CNo.7 trainer does have the feed ramp you are referring to, but it's based on a No.4 action, not the same setup as your rifle.

As for the screw... no ideas there. Maybe ask your gunsmith to make you one? If so, provide him GOOD pics to copy.

[Cantom]

The correct mag for a Sht.22MkIV* is a hollow shell with 22 stamped into the side. Sometimes they weren't stammped 22 though. The CNo.7 trainer does have the feed ramp you are referring to, but it's based on a No.4 action, not the same setup as your rifle.

As for the screw... no ideas there. Maybe ask your gunsmith to make you one? If so, provide him GOOD pics to copy.

Does anyone have a CNo.7 .22 magazine in good cond for sale?
I have a couple of possibles for the sight part coming on line...I also have a real camera coming courtesy of credit card bonus points...

[Claven2]

Even if someone had one, it wouldn't fit well in that rifle and also it would be very incorrect to put a CNo.7 mag into your rifle. What's wrong with using it as-is?

[tiriaq]

Strictly speaking, a CNo. 7 magazine wouldn't be correct for a .22" IV* rifle. I think the magazine shell used would have been a SMLE pattern, with 22 stamped on it. Doesn't mean that No. 7 magazine couldn't have been fitted, the rifles overlapped in use.
When I was in high school, cadets was part of the program. We had Cooey 82s, No. 7s, No. 4s, Brens, and until '59, Stens in the school. One of the older schools in town still had IV* rifles. The Cooey sight bases apparently would work loose, so the shop teacher brazed them on.