Holland 1944

[SA M1Dom]

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[Mark in Rochester]

This photo is of the 101st on the island during market garden

[CINDERS]

Heard a story of in latter days like Korea the enemy listened for the clang of the empty clip being ejected and advanced knowing the weapon was being reloaded, smart GI's had an empty one in their hand and dropped it to simulate the ejecting of an empty clip, enemy walks out or exposes themselves and cops a 30/06 round for their trouble.....ant one else heard that one!

[IanS]

Hi Mark,

which island are you referring to?

Regards,
Ian

[Mark in Rochester]

It had been a long held internet belief that an enemy would not be able to hear the ping over the sound of battle. Fighting from a rifle line this is true for the most part. If there was a pause or individuals clearing a house or some situation where the soldier was isolated I think it is possible. I knew a Korean war BAR gunner who claimed that after his 8th shot he would bang a clip against the side of his rifle and give the enemy the last 12 as they rushed his position.

[Mark in Rochester]

Ian

"the Island," a five-kilometer area bordered by the Lower Rhine to the north and the Waal River to the south.

Major Winters thought the above photo was of E CO

[13Echo]

Not every rifle from every soldier would go ping at the same time so rushing a position at the sound of a ping would still not be a good idea unless it was a single soldier. Also I really doubt anyone is going to be hearing a ping over the sound of battle. I seem to remember from reading one of the Gunner Ashe books many years ago that the Germans did listen for an "eight round cadence." Might be a faulty memory tough.

Jerry Liles

[SA M1Dom]

I didnt know that. I posted the pic because i saw the photographer caught the clip and last case ejecting. I had no idea that might be EZ co.

[WarPig1976]

Not every rifle from every soldier would go ping at the same time so rushing a position at the sound of a ping would still not be a good idea unless it was a single soldier. Also I really doubt anyone is going to be hearing a ping over the sound of battle.Jerry Liles

Exactly!!!

[Paperkite]

At any rate , thanks for posting the foto of two heros from WWII ...