Found this Mk111* at a LGS

[lewk416]

New to the forum in hopes of discovering more information on this rifle. Purchased at a Local gun store near our camp.
Aside from the year of manufacture I believe this to be a Canadian issue rifle re: the large 'C' with arrow inside. Also, at least one of the barrel bands was made by Singer. Not sure what the other markings mean.
Another forum suggested this rifle may have been issued to the west coast militia here in Canada though I don't know how that conclusion was made.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

PS sure hope you folks are ok with plenty of pictures!

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[Colonel Enfield]

Lovely rifle! I don't know a lot about Canadian service markings but I recall a C with a broad arrow in it being consistent with Canadian issue.

It was made at the Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield (in the north of London) in 1917; during the reign of King George V - hence the Crown over GR (George Rex) stamping on the wristguard.

Looks like it's got a short length stock on it as well, judging from the "S" stamped on top of it near the buttplate and it's got the butt disc with it too - originally these had unit and regimental numbers stamped on them but this was discontinued in WWI.

[lewk416]

Lovely rifle! I don't know a lot about Canadian service markings but I recall a C with a broad arrow in it being consistent with Canadian issue.

It was made at the Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield (in the north of London) in 1917; during the reign of King George V - hence the Crown over GR (George Rex) stamping on the wristguard.

Looks like it's got a short length stock on it as well, judging from the "S" stamped on top of it near the buttplate and it's got the butt disc with it too - originally these had unit and regimental numbers stamped on them but this was discontinued in WWI.

Thank you Colonel, very much appreciated. I did not know where it was made so your information is quite helpful. There is another marking under the large C that appears to be another C that has raised a few questions, if in fact it is another C. Can anyone offer an opinion on this marking? Is it another C or some other mark?

cheers,

[browningautorifle]

Both "C"s appear to be proof marks.

[lewk416]

Thanks Jim!

[browningautorifle]

It's possible that someone took the lower "C" for the same marking used by the PCMR in Canada and thought this might be one of their rifles. They were other rifles though, I don't recall any talk about this pattern being used by them... Their Winchesters for instance carry that mark in three places, butt, receiver and forestock.

[CINDERS]

Small S on body just under the serial No. what does this signify.....TIA

[lewk416]

It's possible that someone took the lower "C" for the same marking used by the PCMR in Canada and thought this might be one of their rifles. They were other rifles though, I don't recall any talk about this pattern being used by them... Their Winchesters for instance carry that mark in three places, butt, receiver and forestock.

Thanks Jim. I was thinking this is not a PCMR issued rifle as I don't see the rifles leaving the militia in any decent shape. From what I read they use the LE as their work is mainly in very cold weather and these rifles tend to work well in those conditions. However, the rifles they have are getting worn out. Mine is in really nice shape with rifling that appears new. No reason for the militia to let it go.

[browningautorifle]

They used several patterns, 99 Savage, 94 Winchester, Ross, Pattern 14s...others... Many of the civilian rifles can be found in good to excellent condition depending on who had it. The #4s now have been employed since WW2 I think and have gotten tired as you say. There's several threads here on this.

[lewk416]

They used several patterns, 99 Savage, 94 Winchester, Ross, Pattern 14s...others... Many of the civilian rifles can be found in good to excellent condition depending on who had it. The #4s now have been employed since WW2 I think and have gotten tired as you say. There's several threads here on this.

Neat. I heard Marlin issued them with lever actions during WW2. I also understand the members are being allowed to keep their LE's once a replacement is found. Hopefully that's true.
I tend not to post serial numbers out of habit however would it help at all?