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    A comment about the standard Remington folding metal stock for 870 models... Anyone that I knew in police service down here in paradise (south Florida 1973-1995 -during the height of the party... ) rarely ever fired a folding stock model more than once or twice.. You could tell at the range which guys had used them with the folding stock extended, since most of them needed a bandaid or two in the facial area afterwards. Most of us far preferred the standard old wooden stock models, period. That's what I carried to any hot calls during my career. Those old folding stock models can be found today fairly regularly at auctions (not the gun so much as just the stock....). That basic riot configured wooden stock model would still be my choice for close quarters work since they're a one shot fight ender...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    Speaking to Canadianicon Service shotguns, we had no additional military stampings, proofs, or identification markings, they were only marked with Remington roll marks and typical serial numbers.

    During my time (subject to change with modernization) we had the Remington 870P (Police) parkerized finish with composite stocks. 12 guage, 3" chambers, cylinder bore, bead sight. barrels at 18" if memory serves. Two butt stocks were offered, the typical fixed composite, and the over top steel folder with pistol grip.

    Identifying a former service one in the future will be difficult because only the serial number records will tell you if was a CF gun, but due to currently policy it should be fairly easy as all former CF weapons are to be destroyed and not sold out of service.

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    The LOP was too long for anyone under 6'2" to shoot properly with body armour on, personally I couldn't even shoulder the weapon while wearing plates, well I could, but then I couldn't reach the pump with the supporting hand, it looked comical I must say...

    The folding steel stock was the worst thing I have ever tried to shoot with, I would rather be hit in the head with an entrenching tool than do another "Jungle Lane" range with one of those.

    There was a great deal of mistrust of these shotguns, first because of a warning officially issued around 2004 that stated our shotguns were found to discharge if at the ready (shell chambered) and the weapon suffered a short fall (drop) onto the butt, secondly due to lacking a removable magazine the positive clearing of the weapon became different than most weapons, which lead to a run of ND's among less diligent soldiers unaccustomed to shotguns in their former civilian life.

    During my tour to Afghanistan in 2006 our shotguns were issued with #7 birdshot high brass loads, since there were few upland game birds in the desert, this ammunition became a running mockery of the supply system among knowledgeable shotgunners.

    Shotguns did not really see widespread service, they were issued during special situations and during operations generally rode inside the LAV 3 and were used to provide a measure of "seriousness" to leaders meetings (Shura) after Captain Greene was nearly killed with an axe during one these kinds of meetings.

    I will find some period photos from my collection to share.

    I see from the internet, different types of shotguns have entered service, some are 870P with extended tubes, sights, or flashlight pumps, the JTF2 apparently has a Benelli but that is outside my immediate scope of knowledge.
    Thats some interesting first hand accounts. Do you mind if I use some of that info and you pics on my blog? It's in the sig line. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikesm44 View Post
    Thats some interesting first hand accounts. Do you mind if I use some of that info and you pics on my blog? It's in the sig line. Thanks.
    You can certainly quote my observations. Some of the photos are sourced from google though and I own no rights to them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentryduty View Post
    You can certainly quote my observations. Some of the photos are sourced from google though and I own no rights to them.
    thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikesm44 View Post
    thanks!
    I think I have a photo or two kicking around from my deployment that could be provided. PM me and we can talk further.

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    Enough been said about Remington 870 special purpose magnum, but the most surprising thing to me about this discussion is that I have one that my grandad left over. I have never seen or heard it can have any folded handle. Wait for a second, I was wondering if someone can tell me of any top 5 best gun oil without an odor?

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    Why did you come to this old thread for that? Sounds like Phishing to me. DON'T open that link!
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    Mossberg is military issue, not Remington .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeep View Post
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    In past Remington supplied scads of shotguns. This thread is old like the others you're opening up fresh...that's why we don't...
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