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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    This will fit into some of the documents I am working on from my reels of fiche
    Since most REL documents got destroyed in the early 50's the documents shown here are a real treasure trove.
    REL was a WW II cutting edge technology company and made items that were almost dreams in their day.
    From absolutely zero, REL rivaled both the Germans and Britishicon for quality in optics in less than two years......
    Well if I have pleased Warren, then as I suspected, these are fairly significant to our discussions. I know you will be even more pleased with the committee reports as it discusses some of the difficulties, failures, and improvements.

    I don't want to say too much, but there are reports regarding your last statement which conflict.

    Re the blurred images, again I promised Frank I would not steal his thunder with any of the information he sent me, so it is not just a matter of the blurring, but also a matter of separating the binocular sections from the no32 telescope sections. There is also some information re the sniper observation telescopes.

    More to follow when I get a chance.

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    Lenses in telescopes and telescopic sights we did great with, however comparing lenses to prisms is another matter.
    The biggest problem Canadaicon had with most optical devices was the waterproofing and sealing.
    Most of the 32 scopes that were rejected were due to the sealing.
    Canada had never poured a billet of optical glass prior to REL starting up. Canada (REL) did a great job considering we basically started from scratch in the optical industry.
    Optical glass is poured in a huge billet of almost a cubic yard and then a knapper chips off spauls that are ground into lenses and prisms.
    Prisms are another matter all together and require a much higher degree of expertise in both knapping and grinding.

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    Having examined a few (literally) REL No32s, I suspect the water-proofing issue was nothing but a canard, typical of the little games that were played later, as detailed in Without Warning. The quality and fitting of those scopes was considerably better than the UKicon made No32 MkIs I've seen and messed with, and what waterproofing did they have?? Not much on the ones I saw: a bit of mastic(?) on the ocular lens locking ring, the erector locking segment cover plate and the objective sun shade, sometimes? As for the drums, about the only waterproofing they had was the quality of the fit between the metal parts and REL was well out in front there IMHO.

    You've worked on plenty of them Warren, what's your impression?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post

    Anyone know what "WSL Account" refers to?
    I was reminded by a fellow collector today that it is War Supplies Limited. It would seem to have been a US guided (government) company which controlled a lot of the munitions exports. Canadaicon asked for a seat on the Board and was given one. Other contracts from them included things like Ram tanks and Universal Carriers. There is a good write up on them in a thread over on MLU Forum if you google War Supplies Limited".
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    This is that thread I assume. Lots of material in the Archives, for those who live in Ottawa.

    The Allied War Supplies Corporation was a Crown Corporation authorized under the Munitions and Supply Act, 1939 (3 George IV Ch.4), to facilitate the production of explosives and chemicals in Canadaicon during the Second World War. The corporation was incorporated on 23 July 1940, a time when the allied forces were in desperate need for all forms of munitions. To meet this objective Allied War Supplies Corporation administered, directed and supervised the construction of plants producing a range of chemicals and explosives required for the war effort.

    The corporation was situated in Montreal where it worked in conjunction with the Chemical and Explosives Branch of the Department of Munitions and Supply. Once a requirement had been identified for the production of a particular chemical, the corporation moved to identify contractors for the design and building of the plant. There were a number of cases where the corporation oversaw the expansion of existing privately owned plants for wartime production. However, in the majority of cases the plants constructed for Allied War Supplies were government owned. The siting of plants was conducted in conjunction with the Canadian National Railway, whose property offices carried out appropriation or expropriation of property on behalf of the crown. The actual construction work was done by private companies, most often Defence Industries Limited, a special wartime subsidiary of Canadian Industries Limited, (C.I.L.). By the end of the war Allied War Supplies Corporation had directed the construction or expansion of 48 plants, producing a range of explosives, chemicals and chemical warfare agents.

    The Allied War Supplies Corporation final activities involved the closing down and decommissioning of the 40 plants which were under its direct control. In April 1946 the records of the corporation were transferred to the Department of Reconstruction and Supply, and with a resolution of the corporation's Board of Directors on 10 April 1946, the Allied War Supplies Corporation ceased operations.
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    That is the one. But I also found reference to a US/UKicon version which Canadaicon became part of. Similar name. Not sure which one SAL would have been selling rifles to.


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