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    Help with ID on Mk. 4

    Many years ago I bought this rifle for $90.00. I fired it with commercial ammo with no problems but noticed the shoulder profile on the case had changed considerably looking almost like an "improved version" of the .303. I know little of this rifle type although I am an accomplished shooter and reloader and stopped shooting it with the intentions of finding out why the shoulder change but never got around to it till now some 15 years later. I would value your opinions as to what I have here and is it safe to fire.

    Right side muzzle marked as follows:

    CAI (or an l, or a 1) ST. A. VI. (or an l, or a 1)
    303B UKicon

    Left side receiver marked as follows:

    FTR 1954 No. 4 Mk 1 / ' 2

    The steel band around the grip is marked 1954 as well with an arrow pointing down just above the date.

    There are several markings on the stock as well:

    An underlined HTC or 4TC can't tell.

    1954

    An 80 (split by an arrow shaft) GE as best I can tell.

    A W over a 6 or a 9 over an M depending on muzzle up or but up.

    A 38 (split by an arrow shaft) G5 as best I can tell.

    The receiver, bolt and stock serial numbers all match.

    Any information will be greatly apppreciated.

    John
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    Is the rifle full wood?
    Your "improved version" 303 may well be just that. In Canadaicon we call it the 303 Epps after a well known Gunsmith and sporting goods store owner in Ontario.
    Can you post a photo of a fired case next to an unfired one?
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    CAI (or an l, or a 1) ST. A. VI. (or an l, or a 1)
    303B UKicon
    Century Arms International the importer and the caliber 303Brit.
    Quote Originally Posted by jem102 View Post
    Left side receiver marked as follows:
    FTR 1954 No. 4 Mk 1 / ' 2
    The rifle went through a Factory Thorough Repair at Fazakerly in 1954 when it was upgraded to Mk2 trigger
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    There are several markings on the stock as well:
    An underlined HTC or 4TC can't tell.
    1954
    An 80 (split by an arrow shaft) GE as best I can tell.
    A W over a 6 or a 9 over an M depending on muzzle up or but up.
    A 38 (split by an arrow shaft) G5 as best I can tell.
    Sounds like post war inspection stamps but photos would be helpful.

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    Thank you for the quick reply! I will see if I have a fired case around somewhere and get pics of it and the markings.

    Appreciated,
    John

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    Sounds like you mean that your fired case is stretched, as demonstrated by a smaller outside diameter near the rim...if so, this indicates excessive headspace...which should be between .064-.074".

    Though some have said that American commercial .303 ammo cases are a bit inferior and will show more stretch than the Mk VII ammo. Prvi Partisan cases are said to be superior and are great for reloading.

    I'd have the headspace checked; if it's OK, I'd try some of the 174 grain Prvi FMJ and see if the issue improves.

    Information in general here:

    http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/main.htm

    Headspace:

    http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/ti3.htm

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