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    L1A1 wood hand guard differences.....

    So my rifle is safe and sound being diagnosed by Brian Dickicon. Knowing the rifle is in his capable hands, has freed my mind (from solving my own problems) to wondering about unimportant stuff....
    Like what is the proper application for these hand guards? One has metal trim on the exterior of the front tip , one is all wood on the outside.
    What gives?
    And while I am at it....what is the "proper" finish for the metal butt plate cover assembly? Almost every one I see is silver, with no finish rmaining. How did the leave the factory? Blued? parkerized? painted?

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    There MUST be a better buttplate available... I like the first set of handguards, those are most like what we used... The second are classic UKicon (pre plastic)or AUS...
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    Yes, the pix are really just for reference for this discussion. They are not my actual parts.
    I was just curious in general....
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    The first set of hand guards are the first Aust pattern before we went to the round formed plywood ones. All Australianicon but tplates were parkarised.

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    And how about UKicon or Canadianicon butt plates?

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    Canadian buttplates are different and need a Canadian butt and some extra parts. They came parkerized.

    Look at the different type parts... Marstar Canada - Parts
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    Regards, Jim

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    From a UKicon perspective, the woodwork was originally walnut, with later production being beech.

    In the late 1960's, we replaced the triangular two slot handguards with new laminated examples. These were also adopted by Australiaicon.

    The UK then adopted plastic furniture in the 1970's.

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    The butt-plates are made from an aluminium alloy of a composition unknown to me. Any hints on whether it was related to mazakicon or something completely different.

    They were "anodized" at the manufacturer's plant, but, as the alloy is not pure aluminium or one of the alloys that can be nicely anodized, they were usually given a coat of black paint. This worked about as well as expected, so there was little effort made to keep them "black".

    I would be very loath to try to "parkerize" one, for fear of it dissolving in the tank.

    Whatever material it was, it could survive an astonishing amount of "square-bashing" and rough handling in the bush. Using the butt-plate as the striking end of a hammer to drive in short star-pickets was a sure way to break them, however.

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    Thank you all for continuing my education into the L1A1 and it’s mysteries!

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    I think that the butt plates were sintered - or compressed alloy powder and definately not cast as you will see if you snap one. Easily machined too. You can polish one until the cows come home but after a day it'll just turn a dirty grey again. In the UKicon they were made by the same people who made SU Carburettors (but NOT SU) - and probably the same material too. One of the Birmingham alloy founders such as BIRMALLOY or QUALCAST

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