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    component 150 or 170 gr FMJ ROUND NOSE

    where do these bullets exist?

    150 and 170 grain fmj round nose for the .308 family? correct bullet for a lot of our rifles.

    Also 170 grain FMJ round nose is the lawful bullet in a 30-30 case for American prison execution by firing squad.



    been trying to find them, but wondered if any of you kids have seen them.

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    Why a round nose bullet?

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    well as it was once pointed out to me, krag jorgensons in the USAicon inventory used a 150 grain round nose fmj.

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    The original Kragicon load was a 220 grain round nose.

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    The closest you may get to a 150gn "round-nose" are the blunt bullets made for tube-magazine lever actions.

    Getting them to feed reliably and without mangling the bullet in a bolt action may be a challenge, but for "non-dangerous" game, when driven to .308 . .30-06 velocities, they should do the job.

    "Round" nosed soft-point 170-180gn .308 bullets? Ditto.

    RN FMJ ones? If you want a regular supply, Mr. Corbin could probably sell you all the tooling to make them..

    Probably cheaper to get your local CNC shop to run up a batch from solid bronze or soft brass, but you need to have lots of grooves in the design. This allows the bulk of the body to be .299"-ish and for several narrow "collars" to do the seating in the case and the sealing and driving in the .308" grooves.

    This is not an entirely new idea. The Frenchicon used a machine-turned, solid "bronze" (actually more of a soft brass) bullet in their 1889 issued Balle 1886D 8mm ammo for the old tube-fed Lebel rifles.

    There are a number of makers of turned, solid bronze (and "brass") bullets out there, however, most of their products are intended for use on bigger and less benign critters than bunnies and small deer.

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    Still not sure why one would be searching for anything other than a 220 grain to replicate a Kragicon load. The US military did not use 150 grain loads.

    Here’s some 220 grain bullets: Woodleigh Bullets 30 Cal (308 Diameter) 220 Grain Full Metal - MPN: 65

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    [QUOTE=rcathey;448287]Still not sure why one would be searching for anything other than a 220 grain to replicate a Kragicon load. The US military did not use 150 grain loads.


    actually when speer announced they would finally have 150 grain fmj round nose bullets for sale, people were jumping in joy. what we were given were 150 grain spitzer with a .5 mm tall round bump on the flat point... not what we wanted..

    I tired talking with corbin, and they couldn't get past the idea of it being a round nose FMJ. they just wanted to talk about round nose softpoints.

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    The 150 GN round nose you are looking for is a Sierra # 2135.

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    Where did you get the idea that these bullets ever existed?

    RN FMJ bullets are used about 4 places
    1. Military applications such as the .30 US Carbine
    2. The ammo for the US air force .22 Hornet survival rifle
    3. Small caliber - .22 Hornet or .222 Rem used for seal hunting by native hunters.
    4. RN FMJ steel jacketed bullet in .458 were made by Hornady for dangerous game hunting

    For the most part true US military .308 bullets have only been spitzers since 1906. More than 100 years.
    I have been buying component bullets for about 50 years and I have never see a RN FMJ .30 cal other than the little 110 grn bullets used in the .30 Carbine.

    I sort of doubt the RN bullet used for execution story is true since I can only remember 1 person being executed by firing squad in my life time.
    Gary Gilmore could have just as easily been executed with a soft point or shotgun. No law says it has to be a .30 cal. either.
    BTW only 3 states - Mississippi, Oklahoma and Utah authorize execution by firing squad as one of the methods.


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    component 150 or 170 gr FMJ ROUND NOSE
    where do these bullets exist?

    150 and 170 grain fmj round nose for the .308 family? correct bullet for a lot of our rifles.

    Also 170 grain FMJ round nose is the lawful bullet in a 30-30 case for American prison execution by firing squad.

    been trying to find them, but wondered if any of you kids have seen them.
    Last edited by ireload2; 04-10-2019 at 02:34 AM.

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    If you look into 30 cal Winchester ammo from WW2 era, you'll find FMJ RN was available for the military from Rem-UMC in 20 rd plain cardboard boxes. They also made an FMJ pneumatic with a slight indented tip that was supposed to aid expansion...in an FMJ...? I have them both here if you guys need to see.
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