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    7.5 Swiss Reloading Dies...

    I'm starting to switch my seating dies over to micrometer adjustable competition dies for better consistency... For the most part Forster Ultra brand. However, Forster doesn't offer a 5.5 Swissicon die and Redding doesn't look like they do either. Has anyone ever used either RCBS or Hornady micrometer adjustable competition dies? How do they stack up in terms of consistency? Does anyone know of any other brands to look at?

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    Actually Reading does make them however, I hope you have deep pockets. The full competition set of dies is $225.
    R CBS has been the mainstay of reloading this caliber since the 50s in the new R CBS competition dies for this caliber work great.


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    I use poor, little Lee...
    Sooner or later I'll buy the RCBS too, but now I am still too focused on the boomsticks.
    No money left.

    By the way, nice reading from you again Pierre. It's been some time, oder?
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    Actually Reading does make them however, I hope you have deep pockets. The full competition set of dies is $225.
    R CBS has been the mainstay of reloading this caliber since the 50s in the new R CBS competition dies for this caliber work great.
    Thanks Pierre, I was hoping you'd chime in... If I competed more seriously I'd probably be willing to drop the $225 but since this is just for more consistency I'll go with the RCBS. Thanks again!

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    That's a good choice Amadeus. I've used RCBS with this caliber for some 50 years or more........... never a problem. Most of the guys in the armory now are all Redding because my son is a stickler for very long distance accuracy. He so finicky about reloading, sometimes it makes me want to give them a good smack for being consistently so good at it. Darned kids.

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    As long as were talking about dies, ......... this is one of my archives I wrote a while back:

    Gentlemen, if you consider that the original GP11 cartridge being sized as it is, cycles smoothly in every single Swissicon rifle that is chambered for that cartridge and that begins with the 1800s right up to the PE 57's and the MG 51s and everything in between.
    The 7.5 x 55 requires a full-length sizing every single time, and that means you're going to be using a cam over function to complete the full-length sizing.All of this business about different dies for the different rifles is a lot of bunk. The GP 11 cartridge was universal to the 1896, the 9611, the G 11, the Kadett, the K31, the ZFK55 and the PE 57. If the GP 11 cartridge as sized in its issue form works in every one of those rifles, why would anyone require a special die for a specific rifle?
    In all my years of load data collecting for reloads, the RCBS worked perfectly and gave me the desired results every single time. I will admit that we do have a preference for the Redding dies, but the RCBS works great for target shooting and hunting. We use the Redding dies for long-distance and precision shooting. This is not as complex as a lot seem to think it is.

    If you're unsure about the validity of this, long ago I wrote a reloading specific series on the old Swiss rifles.com with directions on how to reload the GP 11 cartridge in a manner that will function and form every single time without fail.
    As for the .284 case, it will function perfectly every single time in the G11 rifle once is been trimmed and fire formed. It's a very dependable case, however with the K 31 you may find one in 10 times the case will not extract and that's because the rim on the 284 is very slightly smaller and definitely thinner than that of the GP 11 cartridge.
    If you go to this link Swiss Products | swissproductsusa | Kalispell Montana
    and open the FAQ at the top right of the page and then scroll down to "what is the process for reloading the 7.5 x 55 cartridge" you will find a specific that will work with your reloading system and every single one of your Swiss rifles.

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    "...competition dies..." Are a marketing thing. They are not required to load match grade ammo of any calibre. Loading match grade ammo is about meticulous loading techniques and match grade bullets, not the tools.
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    Then, we agree to disagree, sir. The primary difference, and a big governing factor is neck tension differences between the two types of dies. There are other variables but this is nothing more than an academic discussion and probably won't lead anywhere.

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