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    Talking about serious stuff again: I found a guy selling a Colt Officers’ Model Match in .22LR... 650€. Seems to be a great price.
    I think I’ll sin again and drive my Carabinieri station crazy with the new guns I’ll pick up as soon as they’ll allow me to cross the border to Veneto...
    These days I’m walking 12-15 km each day, grilling, reading and looking for new guns on the web.
    Could be worse.
    It is just that feeling of being held prisoner without a single discussion in Parliament (like Steve says), with non logic behind the provisions enforced, that strains me. I’ll try to think about something else.
    Saturday and Sunday with no rain will help.
    I go buy the newspaper, see ya guys.
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    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Talking about serious stuff again: I found a guy selling a Colt Officers’ Model Match in .22LR... 650€. Seems to be a great price.
    I think I’ll sin again and drive my Carabinieri station crazy with the new guns I’ll pick up as soon as they’ll allow me to cross the border to Veneto...
    These days I’m walking 12-15 km each day, grilling, reading and looking for new guns on the web.
    Could be worse.
    It is just that feeling of being held prisoner without a single discussion in Parliament (like Steve says), with non logic behind the provisions enforced, that strains me. I’ll try to think about something else.
    Staurday and Sunday with no rain will help.
    I go buy the newspaper, see ya guys.
    Ovidio-- That's a good one if in good condition, two different styles of sights over the years, Early with a drift type windage rear sight and elevation front sight. Later type with windage and elevation on rear sight. Both are great! I have an early type. Good shooting revolvers.


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    It looks like a second type. Adjustable rear sight. Front sight fixed with two pins. 1960 production.
    I’ll go see it as soon as we’re allowed to cross regional borders.
    Hopefully not more than two weeks from now.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Here she is.
    She looks great in my opinion...

    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    Will it work? That seems to be the big question. It is creating a huge backlash in the US among the conservative portion of the population against China. We want our factories to return home. But again, the usual divide remains. The left says this is bigoted, etc and would rather blame Trump for this than the Chinese.
    Agree we want our factories to return home to Canadaicon too--we have become too dependent on foreign produced cheap goods. However, you are forgetting that we are the authors of our own problem. People talk about "they" took the jobs away and sent them overseas to cheaper labor, etc etc. True. But what drove that? The consumer, which is all of us. Corporations do what their shareholders tell them to and we as a society voted with our wallets. I would love to be able to go to the store and buy a made in Canada (sorry US) hairdryer, or pants, or whatever. Why can't I? Because the companies that used to make stuff here and in the US had to pay more for Canadian and American workers, which raised the cost of the goods produced. So, one company at some point started making stuff overseas because it was cheaper to use overseas Third World slave labour. That enabled them to sell their widget at a much lower price than the locally made competition, but still maintain a good margin. Consumers FLOCKED to buy the cheaper widget, at the same time decrying the loss of local jobs. Other companies manufacturing locally either went tits up for lack of sales or followed suit, and we as consumers revelled in the bounty of cheap ****, which was also cheap quality. Suddenly corporations noticed that people DIDN'T MIND that their product was cheap **** and didn't last, and needed to be replaced more often, because it was cheaper to buy to begin with (think refrigerators from the 1960's vs now). In the meantime, local workers Unions complained about job losses and demanded more job security and higher wages, and went on strike. Sometimes strikes went on for a long time, and workers (NEVER the union bosses) lost tons of money, and even if they did get a pay raise it never made up for lost wages. Some companies just said, "fine, screw you" and closed factories, sending even more jobs overseas. And we as consumers continued to buy cheap overseas made ****, even as our local ability to produce same dwindled to nothing and we were dependent on foreign goods. We answered the siren call of advertising saying we all needed the newest TV or phone, all made in ASia, with the bigger screen and better resolution, even though there was nothing wrong with our old one. Local repair shops went out of business because parts weren't available to fix shitty quality wine fridges, or it cost more in labor to fix a broken cell phone than it would cost the consumer to buy a new one. So, we, the consumers, voted with our wallets.

    Point of all this? Yes, we need to get jobs back to North America, or the UKicon, or wherever. But it ain't going to happen until we as a society are willing to NOT go to Wal-Mart and pay 19.99 for a hairdryer, or $39.95 for a flashy looking POS toaster that can't f-ing heat bread, and instead be willing to pay $50 - $100 for a made in US or Canada one. We can't have it both ways.

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    That looks like a very nice example! I had one many years ago, sold it and wish I hadn't although I like my K22 Masterpiece. If the timing and such on that one is good, you will have a tackdriver to pass down the generations. Unless your government bans it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Communication is paramount in such situations. And lots of so called leaders lack skills in that field. Plus, they are also incredibly arrogant, and that leads to “unhappy” people.
    It is the same here, we just can’t carry weapons around. But if it goes on like this, someone will go crazy and things might quickly go south...
    That is what makes me!!! Crazy. Talk to people in a clear way, as if they were adults (they are when you want their vote, when you tax them, when you call them to serve in wartime...). Why not treat them as such now?
    A leader knows how to talk to people. Spoiled bullies don’t. We are surrounded by bullies now...
    The bottom line friends it that democracy like muscle atrophies without use.

    We are happy to pursue our own whims and fancies, but how much time and effort do we put into our societies, and how they are governed?

    Most of us put very little.

    Looking back through history, one sees over and over again this cycle of apathy or refusal to participate in the process, while abuses and anger against them gradually builds until the point of explosion.

    We live in democracies; they will only remain such to the degree that we participate in them.

    Sitting on our hands and saying, "Oh, it doesn't make any difference what I do", is nothing but a lazy cop-out. It does make a difference, and the more who participate, the greater the difference each makes.

    In a parliamentary democracy, the candidate nomination in a given riding can be controlled or over-turned by as little as a few hundred determined and unified voters. This fact puts the fear of God into elected MPs. Yes, party HQs can and sometimes do impose candidates on a riding, but the political cost and fallout from doing so, especially against the wishes of most party members in the riding, or worse against an elected candidate the party HQ does not approve, that can be very damaging to a party's chances in that riding.

    Join the party of your choice, join it with other people you know who have similar concerns to yours, meet, communicate, learn about the process, sit on the local party executive. TAKE OVER.

    It is much, much easier than it looks!

    Other people served their time under fire; we can't serve a little time in politics?
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    I talked to the guy, he’ll keep the peashooter for me until we’re released and I can go see it. He sent me the pictures I posted in high resolution. The thing really looks great!!!
    I can’t wait anymore...
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    I haven't seen a Colt Officer's model for years. Nice looking example.
    Regards, Jim

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    The trouble was, the products cost much more and also they weren't even very good either. Think Britishicon Leyland cars (and Rootes Group)

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