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    7,000 No8's to be melted down unless .......................

    Have a look at the video 'appeal'.


    Save the .22s! Can You Help?

    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Let’ hope they can be saved... I’d love to buy one, but the UKicon does not want me as a buyer...so bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Let’ hope they can be saved... I’d love to buy one, but the UKicon does not want me as a buyer...so bad...

    The UK Government doesn't even want me as a buyer and I'm on 'home ground'.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    I think that's it's worth noting that representations have already been made to the UKicon government about the No.8's; in fact over a year ago by both LERA and the HBSA.
    I'm not sure what response they received if any at all, I will ask those in the know.
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    You are fighting a bitterly anti-firearm government and a bureaucracy terrified of the embarrassment of facilitating murder. It used to be a pillar of Britishicon common law that you were innocent until proven guilty. Sorry, I'm very sensitive to the prevailing attitude that if you are a gun owner, you are a potential baby killer. I firmly believe in the saying: "You can't trust a government that doesn't trust you."
    Some do, some don't; some will, some won't; I might ...

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    The excuse given was that there was a EU directive stopping the sale of military weapons to the public. They said that they could to used to train terrorists.

    The No.8 is a single shot bolt action .22 rifle. Surely a semi automatic AK47 .22 clone ( which can be purchased easily in the UKicon) would be a better training rifle for the purpose. Also. in a few months EU directives will not apply to the UK.

    A decent No.8 will fetch £1,000 (that's what I paid for mine 2 years ago) and I believe they would sell readily to the trade for £500 average for all conditions. That is £3,500,000 of our money that could help the NHS.

    Not only that but many of us learned to shoot in the cadets with these rifles. THEY ARE PART OF OUR HISTORY.

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    I had a couple and shot them to great effect on our small bore team with my battalion in the '70's. Would be sad to see them destroyed, they could glean the Gum't a good few pounds notes. No self respecting terrorist would train on those.
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    It's financial foolishness to not get something for them. Maybe the Brexit deal can be put to some use here. I won't hold my breath.

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    It all comes down to a UN protocol (signed by many / most countries including the UKicon & USAicon)

    This, and other protocols ban the sale of military firearms and ammunition to anyone except another Government department.

    Even President Obama, signed up to it - meaning that all us 'home loaders' could now require a Ammunition Manufacturers licence from our Governments.

    From the UN document :

    (c) “Ammunition” shall mean the complete round or its components,
    including cartridge cases, primers, propellant powder, bullets or projectiles, that are
    used in a firearm, provided that those components are themselves subject to
    authorization in the respective State Party;

    (d) “Illicit manufacturing” shall mean the manufacturing or assembly of
    firearms, their parts and components or ammunition:
    (i) From parts and components illicitly trafficked;
    (ii) Without a licence or authorization from a competent authority of the
    State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place; or
    (iii) Without marking the firearms at the time of manufacture, in accordance
    with article 8 of this Protocol;

    Licensing or authorization of the manufacture of parts and components shall be in
    accordance with domestic law;
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    While I can accept the wisdom of an international accord to try to control the flow of small arms heading into conflict zones, there has to be 'some' common sense applied!

    No8's are in way, shape or form a weapon of war and are obviously purely paper punches.

    Their destruction helps no one, but plays extremely well to the anti gun lobby.

    Such a shame, like many UKicon shooters, the No8 was the first Firearm (and Lee Enfield) I ever fired and I will add one to the collection one day.

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