US Property Stamp Question

[m1crazy]

OK I have been thinking which is a dangerous thing. Why are the Garands not marked US property like the pistols and .22 rifles. I also noticed that the 1917enfields and 1903 springfields are not marked US property either. Anyone know why this is the case. After 24 years of collecting these things I just noticed this.
TIA
Barry In MO.

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[John Kepler]

Because the "pistols" and .22's were purchased from outside contractors and were government purchases of commercial firearms. The Army made their own rifles!

[m1crazy]

Because the "pistols" and .22's were purchased from outside contractors and were government purchases of commercial firearms. The Army made their own rifles!

Then explain the following.
All 1917 Enfileds not US property stamped all made by outside contractors? Not a US design.
The M1 carbine made by outside contractors designed by Winchester not US property stamped?
I thought the same thing at first but then I thought of the above stuff still kinda curious about it?
Barry In MO.

[m1crazy]

Another thing I am curious about is why was the NO.4MK1 enfield made by Savage marked US property. I would guess it had something to do with the lend lease act still stumped on that one.
Barry In MO.

[twh]

At the time the model 1917 and the m-1 carbine were made there was no civilian version of the same therefore no need to mark them US property. You will note that the 1911 and 1911A1 were so marked because there was a civilian equivalent manufactured by Colt therefore not all of these pistols were government property. The Savage Enfileds are marked US property because they were manufactured under ther terms of the lend lease act. The very first Savage Enfelds were No. 4 MkI not MkI* models and were direct purchase and not marked US property.

[Jim K]

The simple answer is that it was not part of the required markings, but in fact, the term "U.S. Rifle", or just the letters "U.S", will mean the same thing, an item belonging to the legal entity called "The United States."

Jim

[TerryS]

Begs the question. A few things are marked "US Navy", "USAF", "USMC, Marines", USMC, Medical Corps". I always thought just "US" was enough" Think there is a "Dept. of the Navy" also a hundred years ago or so.

[shooterm1]

At the time the model 1917 and the m-1 carbine were made there was no civilian version of the same therefore no need to mark them US property.

and yet Colt made WW2 Official Police Revolvers sold to the U.S. Government are rarely ever found with a 'U.S.' designation ...

all you'll ever find are these tiny Ord Bomb's ...

[John Kepler]

My Dad has 2 Colts and an S&W, delivered to the company I now am part-owner of, and issued to Guards at the dock we operated during WW II....clearly marked as "US Property", and "surplused" to the firm at the end of the war. Ditto a Winchester M94 that my buddies Dad bought off of the Piper Aircraft Co. after WW II that their Plant Guards were issued.

Re: Savage Enfields: They were marked "US Property"...as were B-24's, Sherman tanks, and even ships under the terms of the Lend-Lease Act (the shipyard where my Grandpa was the BuSHips Acceptance Inspector built about half of it's LST's under Lend-Lease for the British.....the builders placard was clearly marked "US Property"!)

[mdoerner]

So when these items were surplused, why wasn't the "Property of U.S. Government" defaced or obliterated? Like all jap rifles that had their Chrysanthemums removed, German rifles with their Nazi Eagles removed (i.e russian refurbs), etc.

Seems kinda silly to have that stamp on something that has been surplused, especially when that item is still in government inventory.

Mike Doerner