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    I got started collecting late...I spent most of my childhood either working or in a library reading (hiding from work) - firearm development and war stories were a favorite topic. From nowheresville to marines, to college, and first jobs+kids in diapers, I never had paychecks large enough to start collecting until a couple years ago. I consider myself a pretty well informed collector from years of reading and window shopping, yet still a newbie in the size of my collection.

    In the pit of any newer collector's stomach right now, rational or not, is the fear that these rifles won't be around much longer. They only made so many...and how much longer until buying a nice shooting milsurp becomes like finding a similar quality trap door, etc.? Add this to the panic buying of ammo, powder, parts, and everything else, and you have a recipe for inflated prices in our milsurp market.
    Thankfully I am patient enough, and have a wife that beats some sense in to me most days. I haven't overpaid by more than maybe 10% through the covid inflation.

    Besides, I can get my panic buying fix with no worries of overpaying or losing value by just maxing out the allowance of CMPicon service grades every year till they are gone. I think they allow a max of 8 per year per individual. I'll mail off an order for 2 more once I replenish funds from the last 2 I got this year.

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    I know there are folks (myself included) that came late to the game which explains some of the price bump on milsurps. But the increase in collector value is different (in my view)
    than the current panic ("I need something to protect myself before it is banned") price increases. It seems to me that the lack of interest in history in the generations following mine
    is eventually going to create some downward pressure on the prices of "old wood & steel". Who knows? Lots of variables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    It seems to me that the lack of interest in history in the generations following mine
    is eventually going to create some downward pressure on the prices of "old wood & steel".
    sad to think of. but dangerous to being true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    but dangerous to being true.
    I try not to think of it ,encourage any young person that has interest and encourage others to do the same.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana . Or my version History deleted is history repeated.

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    That 99 is nice but I see nothing that makes it that nice. Looks like a $600 rifle to me. My local gun shops don't have much. When they do, it's pretty high or sporterized. The gun show I bought the Radom at had quite a few and prices were a mix of good and bad. The Radom wasn't a bargain but it was something I wanted and I was willing to pay for it. I did get them down some. I even managed to find a holster for it already.

    I remember when I refused to buy something unless it was a bargain but with things the way they are now, I'm a little looser with funds than I used to be. But then I'm not spending it on anything else. Can't go anywhere, can't do anything. My purchases for the last year are Walmart DVD's, the occasional helmet/mess kit/canteen/bayonet I find on eBay and a few books. After months of not seeing anything to purchase, I'm willing to spend more when I find something.

    I would never however spend $2000 on a Type 99 Arisakaicon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    That 99 is nice but I see nothing that makes it that nice. Looks like a $600 rifle to me. My local gun shops don't have much. When they do, it's pretty high or sporterized. The gun show I bought the Radom at had quite a few and prices were a mix of good and bad. The Radom wasn't a bargain but it was something I wanted and I was willing to pay for it. I did get them down some. I even managed to find a holster for it already.

    I remember when I refused to buy something unless it was a bargain but with things the way they are now, I'm a little looser with funds than I used to be. But then I'm not spending it on anything else. Can't go anywhere, can't do anything. My purchases for the last year are Walmart DVD's, the occasional helmet/mess kit/canteen/bayonet I find on eBay and a few books. After months of not seeing anything to purchase, I'm willing to spend more when I find something.

    I would never however spend $2000 on a Type 99 Arisakaicon.
    Well said!

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    Tried to buy a laminated k-98 stock sans handguard today and probably should have. Anyone with thoughts on a fair price?

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    Just finished an on-line auction. I did really good and picked up a couple of new pieces for the collection. Here was how the pricing went:

    M1icon Garands - 1300 for an HR and 1250 for a Springfield
    Nambu Type 14 - 575
    Mosins - 250 all the way to 700 (various types including 44, 38, M39 and 91/30)
    Mas 36 - 525 and 550
    SKS - 800
    Enfields - 350 and 450
    Mitchell Mauser - 900
    Non-German Mausers - 250 to 350

    Hope that helps!

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    I just bought a T99 in mostly very good/excellent condition but partially sporterized. They best looking barrel I've seen on a WWII gun. It had to be restored. The wood stock is kinda light and dull. No dings or scratches though.

    I have no idea what is going on with the bottom metal. Very shiny stainless steel. Seems as though the guard and bottom frame and floor plate were bought as a kit. The trigger is very light and crisp.

    The front sight, I dunno. Looks commercial. And the ladder is missing from the rear sight mount.

    Looking down the barrel, is that what two grooves looks like? Nice bright lands. Grooves a tad brown though. Huge and wide.

    Anyway I stole it and and Oviedo 1930 for $275 for both.

    I think the Oviedo is Milsurpable maybe. I do not think the Arisakaicon can be reverted though.

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    Ok, Here is another one that blows my mind-- It is a 1903a4 clone that is made from a recovered drill rifle. Don't get me wrong, I like most recovered 03a3s if done right. But the cost should be way lower than a non drill rifle. The picture of the cutoff area clearly shows that the pocket has been cleaned up where it was welded. (Drill rifle not stated in the description) $2701.00 Yikes! Check this out:

    Rock Ridge Machine Works 1903A4 Sniper Rifle 30-06 - Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com : 895936613

    Salt Flat

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