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    Georg, to try a 26mm tube diameter Kahles ZF69 you'll need either PH RALS4 or RAHS4 scope rings.The 'L' means low and 'H' means high. I think you would be best to try the low rings with those scope mounts. I may have a spare set of RALS4 somewhere if you've got access to a Kahles scope?

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    Front sight base was a band.
    I believe I have one of the adapters that was attached to the receiver enabling a rear sight to be mounted. I'll check.

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    Lithy could shed some light on this.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Promo View Post
    Do you know if the Australianicon Army trialed these rifles with scopes? If yes, do you know which one?
    I know there has been reference to some of the armourers playing around with Kahles scopes

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    Quote Originally Posted by martins8589 View Post
    Lithy could shed some light on this.......
    Not knowing who you are referring, would you mind making him aware of this thread/asking him on this?



    Quote Originally Posted by Omark View Post
    I know there has been reference to some of the armourers playing around with Kahles scopes
    This sounds interesting and would correspond with what desperatedan posted above. Can you find out more on this?

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    Apologies for missing this thread.

    There are a couple of threads here with info on the M44 Omarks. Try the search box on the upper RH side of the page and you will get results like this; https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=36654&page=6

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    I had not found that thread earlier, thanks for posting the link to it. What was very interesting was post #11:
    Quote Originally Posted by trooper554877 View Post
    I have photographic proof that they where issued to VDC units in Victoria, maybe some infantry units in New guinea and definitely the RAAF in Malaya.
    Too bad this member is gone and especially that all old pictures are gone. Since you participated in this thread earlier, do you remember if there were any pictures of a rifle with scope being posted? Or how to reach out to this user (out of the forum)?

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    Have a browse through this thread.

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=34856

    Sorry for being brief but time is short.

    If you have any direct questions, please ask but I won't have time until the weekend to give detailed answers.
    Last edited by Lithy; 05-31-2022 at 04:30 AM.

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    Thank you. I have the following direct questions:
    - Do you have any additional information on Malaysian used Omark Model 44 sniper rifles? And/or possibly the pictures user "trooper554877" had suggested that exist of these

    - Do you recognize the scope bases on my rifle, meaning now by who made and used with which rings/scopes?

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    I will start my reply by stating the Omark was never an officially adopted rifle within the Australianicon Defence Force. They were used by service personnel in fullbore competitions and briefly considered as a locally sourced replacement for the No1 Mk3 HT.

    The threads from ten years ago were prompted by a couple of fellows looking to have them included in a list of approved service arms for service rifle competitions here in Oz. Their enthusiasm to reach their goal led to a few exaggerated claims.

    With regard to your rifle, the two triangular sling swivels and lack of safety on your rifle indicate to me it is an ex fullbore rifle. The foresight would have been clamped to the barrel and a Central rear sight would have been attached to a sight plate screwed onto the LH rear side of the action.

    Butterworth Air Base in Malaysia was "owned" by the RAAF from around 1957 until 1989 when it was handed to the RMAF. The Oz Army has had a Rifle Company stationed at Butterworth since 1970. At it's peak in the early '70s Butterworth was "home" to around 5000 Australian service personnel and their families. With so many Aussies stationed there, it is more than likely there were fullbore rifle competitions carried out on weekends. Such recreational pursuits were actively encouraged in those days.

    Sniping was a lost art in the Oz Army until the mid to late '70s. Aside from outdated HTs in stores, there were no sniper rifles in the system and no sniper training carried out.

    Now, firmly attaching my speculation hat on, the OC of the defence Coy. might have thought there was a need for a designated marksman's rifle or three and had your rifle modified by attaching the mounts and a scope to fulfil the role.

    To my eye, the mounts on your rifle look to be European. Maybe someone else here will recognise them and suggest the correct scope.

    In summary, despite what's written on the tag, it's not a sniper rifle.

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