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    Wrong

    Ross Rifles for sale

    No deerstalkers listed here.

    FAKE NEWS!

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    1910, 1905, 1910 is what those 3 are.

    Repro Ross catalogues are available on Ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr humble View Post
    It is not a Red Deer stalker, they had 28" bbls and were built on the M 10 action like this one.

    https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../INKRpjS-1.jpg

    G&H mounts go way back to 1932 and are period correct for an owner who wanted up upgrade so he could see.
    When it's not called a 1907 action, it's called a Scotch Deer Stalker. There was no such thing as a "Red Deer Stalker", and you're mistaken: the "Scotch Deer Stalker" refers only to this 1907 action, not to the "M-10" .280 built on the 1910 action.

    Looks to be in very good condition.

    Post some photos after you ruin it and waste your money so we can have a good laugh eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ax.303 View Post
    It is definitely a a Scotch Deer stalker. They were built on modified 1905 actions.

    Barrel length does not the determine the model of rifle.

    The rifle in your picture is a regular M-10 sporting rifle.
    Ax303 is correct of course, and this is not a M1905 nor is it an M-10. It IS a Scotch Deerstalker (SDS)- sometimes referred to as the M1907. The SDS is the Model 1905 with an updated bolt - a multi-lug bolt head similar to the M-10. The SDS was only chambered in .280 Ross. The M1905 was never chambered in .280 Ross. The M1905 is clearly discernable by it two locking lug - vs. multi-lug bolt head found on the SDS.

    SDS's are rarely encountered and are a prized collector find. This one has some negatives - particularly the rubber recoil pad and aftermarket sling swivels. I agree with the suggestion about utilizing a scope mount that does not involve drilling holes in the rifle. However, I wouldn't strenuously object to drilling the holes given the condition and modifications place it in the low-grade collector category. And in the final analysis, whoever owns it can do whatever they want to it.

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    I’m a HUGE fan of tastefully sporterized Springfield 1903s.
    I have a few with scopes and they look pretty snazzy. Personally, I *prefer* the looks of an iron-sighted rifle.

    However, when done tastefully and in a historically accurate way, I see no reason not to drill a couple holes in a rifle that’s already a sporter.

    The original poster here isn’t talking about a picatinny rail and a red dot. He’s talking about a Griffin and Howe side mount. That’s perfect for this rifle!

    I wholeheartedly believe the original owner of this rifle would be tickled with that modification.

    Bonus points if it ends up with a vintage scope, too!

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    It's not a sporterized military rifle, it's a factory sporter.

    Only one scope was more or less "factory": the Goerz Pernox.
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    goerz pernox rifle scopes - Google Search
    The period scope and mount will probably cost more than the rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcathey View Post
    I’m a HUGE fan of tastefully sporterized Springfield 1903s.
    I have a few with scopes and they look pretty snazzy. Personally, I *prefer* the looks of an iron-sighted rifle.

    However, when done tastefully and in a historically accurate way, I see no reason not to drill a couple holes in a rifle that’s already a sporter.

    The original poster here isn’t talking about a picatinny rail and a red dot. He’s talking about a Griffin and Howe side mount.
    This not some sporterized rifle. And a Griffin Howe mount is not period correct for this rifle.

    This is a Ross Factory Sporter of which only a few hundred were made, 110+ years ago.

    Very few remain. And even less in this condition.

    Sell it to someone that will appreciate it.

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    Smile You can buy it

    Send me $2500 US and you can appreciate all day every day.

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