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    Questions about Savage no.4 magazines

    Have a couple mags here I am wondering about. One is stamped with the superimposed L over B for Long Branch on the spine but has the boxed S for Savage on the follower. I read somewhere that Savage didn't make their own mag bodies. Is this true?
    Second also has a boxed S marked follower but has a square font S on the spine. also has a 2BZ stamped on the spine. Are both mags proper for Savage built rifles? I wondered whether the S on the spine stood for Savage or perhaps Shirley?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike webb View Post
    I wondered whether the S on the spine stood for Savage or perhaps Shirley?
    M47/C (BSA Shirley). The "S" is Savage.
    Regards, Jim

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    Thanks, apparently Savage did produce their own magazines. I heard that LB supplied them with some hence the LB mag body with the boxed S follower. Safe to assume both were originally in Savage built rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike webb View Post
    pparently Savage did produce their own magazines. I heard that LB supplied them with some
    If you look through the threads here long enough, you'll find testimony from Peter Laidlericon and others that worked on the rifles personally...that describe great piles of parts being used in the combined workshops of NATO and how "Parts is parts". Anything would be used anywhere. To imagine these rifles or parts are new after this long, we reparkerized or bead blasted and blued parts to refurbish them regularly and then matched them with whatever rifle they matched... Unless it's one of the mummy wrapped rifles, it's hard to say where it's been...
    Regards, Jim

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    I see your point. Only collectors would be concerned about "correct" parts. To an armourer or supply officer the only thing that mattered was serviceable rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike webb View Post
    Only collectors would be concerned about "correct" parts.
    Not quite what I'm saying. Just because they're all the same maker doesn't make them correct. Sometimes it's just fantasy.
    Regards, Jim

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    Even so if one buys a rifle and starts swapping bits and pieces to make it all matching then in reality its a bits'a as the only real way of having an all correct rifle would be a mum wrapped straight off the factory floor on the day it was made.
    I brought bits for my 5MD 1916 Lithgowicon as it was missing a few key components namely the magazine and complete safety catch & sling, oiler/pull through etc so swapping out other smaller pieces in period correct was no big deal so now its is a bitsa but with 1916 period correct minor Lithgow parts.

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    We brought in a large batch of wrapped No4 Mk2 rifles it to the UKicon a few years back, some had Long Branch Barrel Bands & two had Long Branch Mk1 Rear sights.

    One customer moaned about the Long Branch rear sight and insisted I change it, as it couldn't possibly be correct, to keep the peace I obliged
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