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    Sounds like it might be time for a change of corporate culture.

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    Just a summary of what we've seen, and heard that makes sense with as little speculation as possible...The multiple angles of footage show an inside pattern of fighters (smaller radius flight path), and outside pattern of bombers. Given the speed and rate of turn of the P-51's in the fighter group, it looks like the P-63 was falling behind and sped up quite a lot as it appears to be going much faster than the P-51's. It also looks like as a result theP-63 was late in the turn and compensated by turning much sharper than the P-51's. Given the analysis we've seen of the airframe, cockpit location, etc, the P-63 overshot the fighter pattern and at the same time had little or no chance of seeing the B-17. As others have said, the Air Boss' testimony will be key.

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    Obviously they did not have the numbers of aircraft so hatched a plan to put on a show, but to have a person come up with a plan who only has his single pilots license nothing else except he was some ones son and was slipped into the position is lunacy.
    Thats like me grabbing a chap from the street give them a 40 minute talk on how the crane prime mover and its upper car body & computer work as well as all its operational configurations of boom/outriggers & counterweights then letting them loose to put an airconditioner on top of a 110M high building! Nuts!!!
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    Reminded me of the Alec Baldwin incident where the armorer was the young (early 20's) daughter of a famed armorer, she was just out of her league and unable to control the on site weapons.

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    I think that everyone should wait until the official investigation/s have been concluded before they start proportioning blame.

    Quite possibly it could be found that it was caused by no one person or thing.

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    There is never really a single factor that causes an incident but the swiss cheese method where at some point a set of holes lines up allowing the bullet to pass through without hitting the cheese.
    The most common one we used for incidents at the mine or construction sites was the ICAM principle using PEEPO and asking the 5 Why's as part of the investigation.
    P= People E= Environment E= Equipment P= Procedures O= Organisation

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    The loss of life is very sad but, unfortunately, time can't be turned back. The official investigation/s should be privy to all the information and evidence that is available and hopefully be able to provide some answers in the fulness of time.

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