They shot Trump

[Sapper740]

I just find it more than passing strange that despite numerous reports of spectators pointing the shooter out to authorities, that the shooter allegedly pointed his rifle at a police officer who checked him out, and the counter-sniper team was "surprised" when he opened fire.....well, some may attribute this series of failures to bad luck, poor planning, or incompetence. I see something far more nefarious and frankly extremely disturbing. I'll stop here since I've already been chastised for being too political.

[jond41403]

I feel you sapper, The whole thing is starting to smell

[ssgross]

Incompetence, whether nefarious or not, was on full display in all the footage and reporting I've seen.
I saw a USMC bumper sticker a while back I really liked. It said "Stay calm, and fix bayonets". I didn't see anyone with that attitude, except for Trump pounding his fist and yelling "Fight!".

[Aragorn243]

The Secret Service does not wait to ascertain whether a threat is real or not. They are not the police, they are to take out any threat, real or not before the President can be harmed. Sounds harsh but this is their way, they are not supposed to make mistakes. At least two of them were watching the shooter, on a roof where no one should have been.

There are a lot of things being called into question, the head of the Secret Service prior experience was security chief of Pepsi Corp. There are women on the protection detail that cannot possibly protect the president from a shot as they are too short. Repeated requests for additional security were denied. There was actually an effort in the House to remove all Secret Service protection from Trump. It fortunately hasn't gone anywhere but it was directed specifically at Trump. Kennedy was denied Secret Service protection up until today by the administration. His father and Uncle were assassinated.

Then there's the kid. 20 years old, no experience at much of anything, little to no online presence, at least that's what we are told. A ladder left on site to allow access. The Secret Service claiming the building and the roof were the responsibility of the local police. Hell, they weld manhole covers shut on routes the President is going to take and they don't check out a roof 140 yards away with clear line of sight.

[Aragorn243]

I’m hearing now that the reason the snipers didn’t take out the shooter is because for three minutes, they waited for permission to do so from the head of the secret service and never got it.

[Daan Kemp]

I've wondered for some time. If snipers are that good, why don't they shoot the firearm/weapon instead of the person? Depending if the firearm is visible enough, etc. Especially crew served weapons. Difficult to replace the weapon, easy to replace the operator.

[Aragorn243]

Probably because most aren't that good. Some probably are. To disable a weapon, they are going to have to hit it in a specific spot. Off slightly and it's still operable and the shooter knows he's been seen. It isn't the movies either.

Update on the three minute refusal, it is now believed that is a false rumor.

What I don't get is that many of my facebook friends still have no clue what happened. Not that I do either I suppose but I at least know the basics. One guy believed if this was a real shooting, people behind the President would have been hit, three were, one killed. How do you not know that? Another assumed this was a 22 rimfire at 140 yards, and this guy knows the basics of firearms. Yes it will travel that far but accurate, average of 15" drop at that distance.

[Ovidio]

In any case, I can't leave you alone for a few days that you start revolution up there in the good ole US of A...

Jokes aside, that was and still is a very strange accident.
I'm so sorry for that poor guy who got killed and for his beautiful family.

[Aragorn243]

"BUTLER, Pa. — Channel 11 News uncovered dramatic new details Monday in the moments leading up to the assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump. According to multiple law enforcement sources, Thomas Crooks was spotted by law enforcement on a roof nearly 30 minutes before shots were fired that injured Trump, killed a former fire chief and injured two others in the crowd.

Channel 11?s Nicole Ford confirmed that Beaver County’s ESU team had eight members at the rally, including snipers and spotters. According to Ford’s sources, one of them noticed a suspicious man on a roof near the rally at 5:45 p.m., called it in and took a picture of the person. We have learned from our sources the person in that picture is Thomas Crooks. We’re told it’s not clear if Crooks had a gun with him at that point.

According to multiple sources, a law enforcement officer had also previously seen Crooks on the ground and called him in as a suspicious person with a picture prior to 5:45 p.m. Our sources tell us an officer checked the grounds for Crooks at that point, but did not see him where the first picture was taken.

26 minutes after the second picture of Crooks was taken by law enforcement and the information called in, shots were fired from the roof of the American Glass Research building. Seconds later, a Secret Service sniper returned fire and killed Crooks."

[Surpmil]

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The water tower overlooks the whole area including all roofs, but apparently no one was there. One would think at least panning and zooming cameras would be installed on such prominences if the structure was not suitable for a live observer.

IMHO the video suggests that neither of the SS counter-snipers on the roof took the shot that killed the would-be assassin. Both can be seen to move and lose their sight picture when the shooter fires. One of the two has purportedly posted on social media under his real name that he had the shooter under observation for about three minutes, but his superior refused to give the order to shoot via radio. Given the visibility and short range and the optics the SS counter-snipers are seen using, if the shooter had even the muzzle of his weapon over the peak of the roof, the SS team should have been able to see it easily. Was there confusion over whether the shooter was part of a security detail?

There are reports a local policeman alerted by the crowd nearby either climbed the ladder used by the shooter to get onto the roof, or was boosted up by a colleague and holding onto the edge of the roof, looked over and saw the shooter from behind. The shooter noticed him and pointed his rifle in his direction at which point the policeman ducked down or jumped to the ground and presumably the shooter started firing not long after.

The shooter was described by a schoolmate as a loner without friends who was constantly bullied, in other words he may just as easily have been another "school shooter".

The bullet which struck him appears to have hit the front upper left side of the head as the exit wound is on the right back side of the neck about four inches behind and inline with the bottom of the jawbone. The left eye socket/brow is pushed outwards and down and teeth appear displaced in the open mouth. Presumably he had ducked his head down when the fatal bullet struck.

His own shots were so rapid its hard to see even an expert shot keeping an accurate aim.

Whatever one thinks about him, Trump is no physical coward and one could say the entire USA "dodged a bullet."