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Are B.S.C. and IKEF not wartime Indian manufacturers? I'm not sure about the other 2?
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03-25-2025 05:54 AM
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*&//@#??//~% butt packs!
Can't imagine that anyone buying a surplus Vietnam-era butt pack ever actually had to use one in the service. They were probably one of the most annoying pieces of load-carrying equipment ever foisted on an unsuspecting soldier. I heartily cursed mine on every trip to Fort Ord's beach ranges as it bounced up and down on my forth point of contact.
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B.S.C. = Bata Shoe Company
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I was in 1980's early 1990's and we were still issued buttpacks. Probably Vietnam era for all I know. I didn't keep mine but turned it back in. We actually used them. Had an Alice pack also but I can't remember ever doing anything with it other than moving it out of the way in the locker. We were issued all the basic stuff but as we were not infantry, we rarely used it. Went into the field once a year which was enough. We had big tents so didn't bother with the shelter halves. One year we spent two weeks in the field but that was the extent of it. Saudi was all in buildings.
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Originally Posted by
Flying10uk
Are B.S.C. and IKEF not wartime Indian manufacturers? I'm not sure about the other 2?
The one dated 1947 is Belgian. I doubt Great Britain
made any after the war. A lot of new stock still out there.
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Aragorn243
I doubt Great
Britain
made any after the war.
There are some about and I do have an early 1950's dated UK example with black painted steel fittings. When my late father purchased it many years ago from the local surplus store as unissued surplus stock it can't of been very old.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
Can't figure out the year.
In the absence of any other date stamped on the tin I would go with 1987, the one stamped on the base which I'm reading back to front, i.e. from the inside.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
German
Nazi soldiers made by Marx
We had similar in the UK
in the 1970's but not by Marx.
Airfix apparently and still available new. A00705V WWII German Infantry
Last edited by Flying10uk; 03-27-2025 at 10:16 PM.
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87 is probably correct, I didn't notice that and was concentrating on the painted numbers. Airfix has been around a long time but they are tiny about 3/4 of an inch tall. These are two inches tall so more detail is present.
I have a lot of Airfix and probably half a dozen other manufacturers, but most are Napoleonic era. I do have some WWII but they are just what I picked up incidentally. I always say I'm going to sit down and paint them but haven't done so in a long time. I have thousands of them so maybe when I retire.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
87 is probably correct
Generally speaking with this style of ammo tin you'll see the date stamped on the lid together with whatever particular model of tin it is. Obviously in this particular case they have decide to stamp the details on the base rather than the lid for whatever reason.
This general style of British
/Commonwealth pressed steel ammo tin with handles at each end, of which there are many variations, I assume were first manufactured during WW2 or at least WW2 examples are the earliest examples that I have seen.
Unfortunately now in the UK the surplus ammo tins tend to have the painted markings covered in yellow paint.
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