I was beginning to feel like a loner on my no shoot rifles list. Glad I'm not the only frigid one here. I did break down and shoot my no 4 T's to see which one was most accurate and the plan will be to use it in the vintage games in Anniston. That's a big step for me. Baby steps! One day..... Possibly, I'll shoot the mc-52. It's better than a "no".