What is your dream milsurp?

[Stevo]

There's no reason one of those semi Brens shouldn't be legal here. Keep in mind it's basically an all new reciever built to satisfy BATF regs. It's not a Bren, per se, it just looks like one and uses many Bren parts.

$3k US would end up being $5k Can. by the time you imported one and figure in the exchange. Plus, someone has to be the one to send theirs to the RCMP for approval.

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[Cantom]

There's no reason one of those semi Brens shouldn't be legal here. Keep in mind it's basically an all new reciever built to satisfy BATF regs. It's not a Bren, per se, it just looks like one and uses many Bren parts.

$3k US would end up being $5k Can. by the time you imported one and figure in the exchange. Plus, someone has to be the one to send theirs to the RCMP for approval.

$3000usd times 1.16= $3480 plus shipping. Our dollar's a whole lot better than it was when we had to pay 1.6395 for one USD.

If the receiver's brand new, not a reweld it would probably be importable...

[Stevo]

$3000usd times 1.16= $3480 plus shipping. Our dollar's a whole lot better than it was when we had to pay 1.6395 for one USD.

If the receiver's brand new, not a reweld it would probably be importable...

Plus importation and brokerage fees, and the shipping would be considerable. I'd consider $4500 to be a minimum expected cost.

[three0three]

My dream milsurp would be the M1-carbine or the pepesha carried by my wifes grandfather in Korea. Good man

[stencollector]

If the receiver's brand new, not a reweld it would probably be importable...

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

[Klunk]

Bad news guys. I got info today that the receivers in question on the other thread are in fact rewelds. Oh well, back to the wishing well for another try.

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

[Dimitri]

I thought that would automatically make them 'machine guns' in the US???

DOnt they HAVE to have a new made reciever to be considered legit, non classIII guns?

WHat about the RP whatchamacalit with the pan?
Or the semi only PPSh
Or the semi only PK (Yum)
Or the semi only RPD (double yum)

Klunk,

The ATF considers the Mag well the "receiver" so they can reweld them all they want with new magwells. While in Canada ANY part of the reciever would be considered a Converted Auto if I understand correctly.

Dimitri

[Stevo]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

[Claven2]

I don't know about that Dimitri. When the receiver is cut, it ceases to be a Bren receiver. When the new gun is assembled, they're just parts used in the manufacture. Who knows though.

It's quite a ridiculous situation. In the Czech Republic two (2) different manufacturers just happen to find hundreds of receivers for select fire rifles and "newly build" up two different rifles, the VZ58S and CZ858. These receivers are exactly the same as the select fire VZ58 with minor mods. This is all perfectly okay somehow because the receivers were never part of complete rifles (which I don't believe for a minute).

What we need to do is find Bren receivers that were never assembled into complete MG's. Then, as per the VZ/CZ, they would just need trigger group mods to make them perfectly legal. Of course, they'd be virtually identical to the CA Brens that no one can shoot, but through the amazing power of semantics, they'd be legal.

Well, considering the same Czech factories that make the VZ58 also made the ZB-37 (ie, Czech precursor to the Bren), that's not entirely outside the realm of possibility. Maybe the RCMP lab would buy the same fishing story twice???

PS: I LOVE my C/A VZ....

[Dan Wilson]

All of the converted Brens are actually using original Bren receivers that are welded back and converted to satisfy the gestapo at the BATF, one of my bud's, Pirate, down in Miami is one of the builders for these receivers. He also sells the jigs for rebuild of the receivers.
Stan's site (Pirate)
Bren

Wiselite is the other re-manufacturer of the Bren and they also re-utilize the demilled receiver.
Bren~Build services - www.wlarms.com

Whatever happened with the gestapo's OAMGAAMG, guess they pick and chose as they like.

My dream milsurp would be a mint trapdoor ahhhh a nice 45-70 thumper!!

Dan