Pederson devices recently sold

**Calif-Steve** · 12-10-2011 11:32 PM

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rifle project and having 60,000 PD's in storage hurt that project. It made Congress think the Army already had a semi-auto rifle in the system. Therefore, the PD had to go. Lots were grabbed from bonfires and put into pockets. I have also heard rumors that the Army tested them after WWI and found them fragile and not reliable. After the war ended they were quickly placed into long-term storage.

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**pcaru1** · 12-11-2011 08:10 AM

Lots were grabbed from bonfires and put into pockets

Calif-Steve- Why would workers grab them from fires when they had no idea of value for the future? What would be the reason for them risking their jobs to grab a failed prototype? Is there an estimate of how many "original" devices are in private collections?

I never heard that one was found in Germany icon

. How could they possibly got their hands on one of those?? Were any ever tried on the WW1 battlefield? Is it possible they found out about this device between the two wars and reverse engineered one?

**Rick the Librarian** · 12-11-2011 08:15 AM

The usual estimate of surviving PDs in about two to three dozen. A couple I have seen show evidence of being a little scorched.

**Calif-Steve** · 12-13-2011 12:06 PM

They were cute toys and guys wanted them. So the guys grabbed them out of the bonfires. The total number floating around seems in dispute. Likely more then a couple of dozen, but no one has a true count. I had a odd buddy buy one 5 years back and then backed out of the deal, long story. I keep hearing rumors of "somebody" gearing up and making modern repos. Hasn't happened yet. Anybody know what happened to all of the .30 Pederson ammo???

**emmagee1917** · 12-13-2011 01:29 PM

It became the 7.65 X 22 French icon

longue.
Chris

**Calif-Steve** · 12-13-2011 06:17 PM

Chris got it!!!

**Harlan (Deceased)** · 12-13-2011 07:13 PM

That ain't unusual.

**Rick the Librarian** · 12-15-2011 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Calif-Steve

Anybody know what happened to all of the .30 Pederson ammo???

Oldguns used to sell it for two bucks a round a few years ago. I still remember looking over a PD, complete with tools, case and about 200-300 rounds of ammo a few years ago. It sold in the @ $35000 range on RIA, IIRC.

**Calif-Steve** · 12-15-2011 10:51 PM

Rumor has it a PD sold at Knob Creek last year's show for under $10k. The seller had to sell quickly.

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