Confusing Enfield No4 Mk 1 (T) markings and look

[zak2013]

Hmmm. What do you mean by serial number looks like it has been scrubbed? My FAC has this number on it now is this illegal?

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[Robert303]

Don't worry about the deleted / scrubbed number for FAC purposes. As long as the FAC matches the most visible serial no and the one the seller submitted to the police you should be OK.

[bigduke6]

Hmmm. What do you mean by serial number looks like it has been scrubbed? My FAC has this number on it now is this illegal?

Nothing to worry about, looking at the pic it looks like the original number has been removed and stamped with another, as Robert303 says, as long as it matches the number on your ticket.

[Beerhunter]

Hmmm. What do you mean by serial number looks like it has been scrubbed? My FAC has this number on it now is this illegal?

Your FAC should show the serial number that is currently on the rifle. (In the past, I have had firearms on my FAC as "No visible serial number" which is also legal.)

[Patrick Chadwick]

My FAC has this number on it now is this illegal?

IMOH there is no problem.

For present-day authorities, the number on the rifle is to identify the rifle. The number in your licence is to identify the weapon (in this case a rifle) as being licensed to you - and nobody else. As long as those two numbers match, you have a legally licensed rifle. It does not matter who, once upon a time, applied that number. It has nothing to do with "originality" as collectors may understand it. What does matter is the match, which is why it is an offence to alter it unless the alteration is performed by an authorised person or agency (e.g. gunsmith rebarrelling a rifle and, of course, ensuring that it is reproofed!) and the alteration is duly recorded in the licence. Removing the number without remarking the weapon is a criminal act.

I realise that this simple explanation will not match legislation in all countries around the world, but the basic principle should apply in most European countries - the number is an identification that must match the licence, and removal or unauthorised alteration is a criminal offence, because it prevents or falsifies the identification.

[zak2013]

IMOH there is no problem

Very much appreciated your comments. Thats put my mind at rest. Bigduke6 made a similar comment. I can now sleep at nights. LOL

[zak2013]

Following discussion of the front HINGED band on my No4 (T) i was wondering if anyone could comment on its history? Is it a genuine Enfield piece and/or a training rifle piece? Attached a few photos but cant quite make out the stamping mark.